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I have never experienced childbirth but I have experienced kidney stones and that is the most intense pain I have ever experienced in my life. An abscessed tooth does not begin to compare. That is drop to the ground and bury your face in the mud kind of pain.

I do, her name was Katherine. She was a mean, thoughtless, nasty, cranky, older lady with a thick German accent in a SNF where I was DON. I really did not like this lady, she went of her way to be mean. When I would have a need to speak with her it took all the patience I had not to tell her what I thought of her. When I would leave her room I would secretly stick my tongue out at her behind her closed door. One night I had to go to the facility to terminate someone at 10:30PM. It left them short so I took the shift. Turns out my gut was right to terminate the nurse that night because he came back a few hours later and set fire to one of the buildings. The fire was moving very fast, it started in the middle of the building and traveled to the left. I did not know the details of fire, I did not know that one room in a fire tends to collect heat, it doesn't necessarily burn, it just collects heat, severe heat. The only death/injury that night was Ray, the man in that room. Katherine was one of the people I got out that night. After the fire we were all hugging and counting people and counting again. It was really odd, from that point forward Katherine and I had a vastly different relationship. We understood one another and we were really nice to each other. We actually enjoyed chats for the first time, I really liked her. Needless to say, I was one of the people that had a pretty nasty case of PTSD. I couldn't sleep, each time I would close my eyes I would see flames, hear fire destruction, and hear people screaming. It was horrible. About 10 days later we were short staffed again and I came in to take the shift on midnights. We had five buildings and I had the building Katherine was in. Everyone was sleeping well and so I was at the nurses station going nutso all by myself. I would SWEAR I could smell smoke, I kept looking for this non existent fire and when there was no fire I would relax, start my paperwork and I would smell smoke again. I was losing my mind. I sat there shaking in fear and ... I was just losing it. I finally went and got a largish metal pitcher and began filling patient water pitchers just for something to do. Right outside Katherine's room I dropped this metal pitcher on the hard tile floor. Katherine woke up screaming and swearing and I apologized profusely and well, just kept apologizing. Finally, I stopped apologizing and sat on the edge of her bed and explained I actually did that on purpose. She asked why, I explained I wanted her to wake up. (I've never admitted this to anyone other than Katherine.) She asked why did I want her to wake up and I couldn't stop the tears and I responded that I was scared. She asked me if when i closed my eyes did I see flames? I said YES!!! Apparently, she did, too. She matter of factly said, "Okay!" She got up, put her robe on, and she sat with me at the nurses station and we talked all night. She told me what it was like to be a German Jew in Nazi Germany sneaking out of the country and what she had to go through to get into the US. An example is that she was 17, she was on board a US military ship. She had to (they all had to) have a physical by the medical officer and she had to have her first ever pelvic exam with all these male US soldiers watching and gawking at her. But she would do anything to escape the Nazis. I wished that night could go on for a few more days, she had so much to tell me, she was this huge and massive wealth of information. She had my absolute attention for the night. I really wished I could have known *that* Katherine the previous years, she had so much information and history to share. I would have soaked it up. I know today (and I knew then) it was wrong to wake a patient because *I* was afraid but I'd be a liar if I said I wouldn't do it again if I had a do-over. I would in a nanosecond. You can finger wag if you want, I did it and that is what happened. Katherine died a couple of months later, it was a huge loss but she was in her 90s and it probably was her time. I have another story to share, it's true. It's one of those spooky, what's going on moments. A couple of months later I received a call, they were short handed and unable to get a registry nurse. They asked what they should do, I went in and took the shift. If nothing else the fire reinforced that we can't leave nurses short handed, ever. It started all over again, although my PTSD was much better it was kicking in full force being there again, in the middle of the night. I was smelling smoke but there was no fire. I sat behind the nurses station and cried, I was crazy! Now this was about 25 years ago. Helen was another patient, a verrrry sweet little old 90-something year old lady. She had been in a state institution since she was 16 years old. Apparently, according to family, she was to elope with her boyfriend and her parents caught wind of it. Wayyyyyy back when, one option to prevent a marriage was to put your child in a state institution and that is what happened to Helen. But nobody let her out until her 80s when the courts mandated cleaning out state run hospitals. She was freed for the first time and came to us. So this night I am working and living in my own little crazy world in my head, smelling smoke that was not there, in tears hiding behind the nurses station. Helen woke up and came out to chat. Without an invitation she walked around the desk and sat next to me. She said Katherine came and told her to come out and talk to me. I gently reminded her Katherine has passed away. She said she knew, but Katherine came to get her anyway and told her I was frightened and she should go sit with me. ????????? Then she reached for my hiding spot where I kept a candy dish for our patients, pulled the dish out (she couldn't know where it was) and ate candy while we chatted for the next few hours. You can call me crazy and I'll cop to it, I knew I was crazy that night. But I believed Helen that night and I still do today. I don't think I will ever forget Katherine, she was something else!

DIE THREAD! DIE!!!

If someone is asking my opinion as a nurse, I expect they are probably looking for my opinion as a nurse. I think we can take technicalities to an extreme and it doesn't really benefit anyone. But then I am ballsy enough to document that a patient is sleeping vs. documenting that they have their eyes closed, drool is running down their face and they are making snoring sounds.

Actually, the topic is weight loss. I really do not know what your problem is and at this point, I don't much care.

Argue all you wish, totally cool. I'm still standing behind what I quoted and what I wrote. This isn't a head scratcher.

Again........... I responded ONLY ****ONLY**** to the comment that inferred you have to eat meat to get B12. I don't give a bugs back side about veganism, I didn't respond to anything regarding veganism. I responded to the post that referred to meat and B12.

I understand that. Again, I wasn't responding to anything to do with veganism. I quoted the entire post of the comment I was responding to. I didn't quote anything to do with veganism.

I wasn't referring to vegans, I was referring to a comment that we have to have meat to get B12.

You can also get B12 from dairy and poultry.

I'm all for less meat for humane reasons as well as health reasons. But there is a massive difference of opinion in old science vs. new science when it comes to carbs. For each study you produce I can produce one differing with your study, see how that works? You do write as though the only way to do low carb is via meat and low calorie and well...quite frankly, you are incorrect. I believe most of the population (including medical professionals) are not aware of the new information being learned about obesity, metabolic syndrome, the many hormones involved in food --> body fat. and the hormonal chain reaction in the gut when consuming any food item. You can't really rely on old science and ignore everything learned in the last 45 years. It just doesn't lend a great deal of credibility to your stance. I think if you do some research outside of your comfort zone you might find that many obese people don't handle any carbs well compared to when they were normal weight. For ME, and ME only, white carbs are a no no. I do well with beans and veggies but fruit (sugar load) does not work for me nor do white carbs. We have had two *massive* waves of obesity in the last 100 years, the first was in the 50s when processed foods came out and the 2nd was in the 70s when nutritionists decided (based on very flawed science) that we all needed to eat a high carb, low fat diet. Then end result was what we have now, 1/3 of the population is obese, 1/3 is overweight, and the minority of US citizens are normal weight. The new generation today is the first generation in the history of the US that are not expected to outlive their parents. Pediatricians are now being told that they need to check for fatty livers in their patients. Little kids!!! What happens when you give a diabetic more carbs? They need more insulin. What happens when you give them fewer carbs? Less insulin. Yet what to dieticians tell our patients? You *need* carbs, so just increase your insulin. WHAT? How is this good info? It's not, it's 1970s science. New science, new information, new data, it's a good thing! Embrace it and please understand, not every peer reviewed journal article and not every study has the same results as yours. I respect that your current diet works for you, good for you!! I am sincerely happy you found what works for you but as you write, every single person has free will, it's no gift. It merely is. They have the free will to do what works for them instead of what works for you.

Oh my goodness, if I ate that way I would be big as a house again in no time. I could easily become vegetarian, not so sure I would do well with vegan. Low carb *or* low white carb does not necessarily go hand in hand with low calorie. If this style of eating works well for you I think that is great and I would always encourage you to continue. But this would not work for me. I do not agree with your science on carbs, thankfully the field of nutrition has come a long way in the last 45 years and we know much more about carbs than we did previously. I favor current science on the topic of carbs and that is what has worked for me for the last 9 years. I am over 100# smaller on a lower carb diet and I feel 100x better. No more bloating and discomfort. I don't think there is a one diet fits all lifestyle. I am very confident your diet would have me where I was 10 years ago vs. maintaining well today.

Wow, I could have written that!

Maybe I read it wrong but my take on the post was that the OP did indeed witness the event AND she's "heard" this isn't the first time.