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I haven't taken any NP courses yet. However, I want to express my opinion as a pharmacy student. I disagree with the proliferation of online program "only" because of the fear of potential oversupply of NPs. It's easier to open an online program because there is no limit for physical space. Therefore, many schools can open up and "over-produce" NPs. There's only one pharmacy school in the country. I probably would have quitted pharmacy school by now if there are more openning up. Oversupply of pharmacists already exists in my city. I do not think that in-class learning is superior to online-learning method. I missed so many classes and still doing fine in the pharmacy program. In fact, there's a girl in my class who get 4.0 in the program and only come to class during the required meetings or exam sessions. What's the point of going to class listening to lecture (besides socialization) while you can study independently at home? How many questions you can ask in the class with 40-50 students? I don't think it is more beneficial to sit in class and listen to material I could be studying at home. However, I agree that class discussion would be beneficial but most of the times we are only listening to the lecture. This is a graduate level study, and I think the student can be smart enough for independent study. Maybe I am an introvert. I learn better when I study by myself independently. Online video/audio file/chat-room can replace the benefits of the face-to-face classroom settings. If the level of difficulty of the exams and the amount of material covered are equivalent, I think the quality of the "didactic" portions of the both online and on ground program should be at the same level. However, I am afraid that online program will make it easier for students to pass. The only problem is the clinical portion. If the online program can standardize the quality of clinical experience selected by the student, this would invalidate the argument that in-class learning is superior to online learning. If the accrediting organization can not limit the number of new schools by limiting instructor:student ratio, then getting rid of online degree may be a good idea just to control the supply. I don't disagree with online education but I disagree with opening more NP schools.

Thank you all of you guys for constructive criticism and advices. I want to write a long reply now but I have to study tonight and tomorrow. I haven't taken graduate level nursing causes as of yet so I can't compare MSN VS PharmD. It's not fair to compare BSN with PharmD because they are not at the same level. Anyway, comparing to my nursing undergrad ("BSN"), I feel that materials in pharm school (both pharmacology and A&P aspect) are more scientifically oriented and more detailed. I spent much more time studying for tests. But I can't comment anything about NP or MSN program.

PharmD/FNP dual program. Seem like I am not only one that think this way. http://www.uhh.hawaii.edu/news/press/release/854

To make you feel better, it's easier to bring up the score in Quantitative section and Verbal section! I have studied for months but couldn't bring up my Verbal up over 500.

Can Family PMHNP be certified as Adult PMHNP later after taking extra courses??? Or they have to go for the whole post master certificate thing again?

Then, is PMHNP be a subset of Family PMHNP? Are there limitations for being a Family PMHNP? For example, will they be hired in the settings where the majority of the patient population are adult? I think there is already CNS certification for children & adolescence in place already. Most job advertised online are titled "Psychiatric nurse practitioner." It did not specify whether it would be adult or family. I know that they take different board exams.

Dolcebellaluna, but do you think( "overall" )psychiatric nursing match your personality type more than other fields in nursing? That's why you still stick with it.

for me, none. i probably choose informatics just because of introverted personality. you can pursue master in computer informatics. but i want other choices. i have never worked in utilization review but it seems so protocol-based. trying to apply clinical knowledge into informatics may be fun. you might get a chance to teach staff of new system. teach is a favorite career for infp, i think. why don't you like bedside nursing as a infp?

In addition to INFP, ISFP and INFJ can be hypersensitive as well. She could be other types. I think I understand your feeling. INFP get hurt easily. They tend to take things personally. INFP want to be appreciated for what they do. Sincerity and straightforwardness are good things but they also need some encouragement. If she is an INFP, when you reach the "personal" level with her, she will open up more and work with you harmoniously. If she is INFP, she is curious and want to understand the "big picture" behind everything. You may not just want to tell her to follow the rules. Personally, you may want to explain the rationales behind your rules or directions emphathetically. But I understand.. when things go down quick... then you don't have time for to explain things..

Hey. Gemma. What's up? Yep. I am "allegro" . I don't want to use friend to talk to about my "perceiving" thoughts and ideas. Most people don't want to talk about future, goals in life, and emotional stuff. Therefore, I used online forums as friend who I can express ideas and vent out my frustration. Sometimes, I probably use them excessively. Since you don't have BSN yet, have you thought about other area besides BSN? Maybe psychology or medicine? What's you age? I think it's a factor, too.. Me too. I love learning for the sake of learning... but it's getting impractical sometimes... It costs money and time. There was a period about half a year that I enrolled in local college for music major, while work very part-time as a nurse... Thinking now, I don't know why the heck I did that. This is also one the reason that I am silly enough to stay in pharmacy school while I can't see myself fit into anything except academia. Yep, I am still torn between PharmD and NP. I have invested some much time and money and energy into PharmD but I am fearful that I may not be able to find anything I want in pharmacy. There were so many nights that I torture myself by pulling all nighter for exams... I don't find see much "humanistic" creativity in pharmacy classroom setting. Laboratory is fun but everything is all about "impersonal" analysis. I start to reconsider my value and what I want in my life. I want to get connect with people on a personal level and do something else that also me to use the "feeling" side of me. This is what keep my spirit alive. I still like the "big picture" materials but I feel that many things are all about facts and details. You know... My first academic degree is foreign language and literature and I love it... This is where my personality lies... For INFP, happiness first, then money and prestige.... I have to study tonight.. I'll write more later.

I am INFP, too. I believe that INFP is not a good type for the majority of nursing jobs. You need strong organization skills and practical hand-on skill that most INFP am lacking. I am too theoretical and dreamy. I can relate to your feeling as a nursing student. On the other words, "judging" and "sensing" are very valued in nursing. This is the reason why nursing is listed as a "ISFJ" career, not INFP. There's lots of people with "S" and "J" in nursing. I also don't see any co-worker on my floor who has INFP personality type. We are very rare but honestly I have never found one. Healthcare is getting more structured and there's no room for artistic creativity, brainstroming, and reflectiveness. This causes me lots of frustration on my jobs. Nurses are valued for their efficiency but not their creativity. I think the most compatible career for me is mental health and education. I am in pharmacy school right now but I am still considering continue my master level in Mental Health Nursing. I would rather be a psychologist but the length is as long as medical school. I regret that I took MBTI too late in my life. I know that this post is quite emotional but do you guys agree???

INFP... And honestly, almost ALL nursing jobs do not match personality type. Seriously NONE. My extreme "intuitive" and strong "perceiving" parts make me dislike the routine practicality in nursing. I love patient interaction but I honestly don't like hand-on routine stuff. The only thing that can be a potential match is psychiatry. I think where I would fit most is psych nursing, not as staff, but possibly as an advanced practice nursing. But regardless, I think psych RN is probably a good match for me than other personality type. Ironically, now I am in pharmacy school. Pharmacy jobs are even more structured!! I am hoping to get into teaching or specialized in psychiatric pharmacy so it can be as close to my INFP match as possible. I am still thinking about changing my path to psych CNS or psychology................. anyway... got to back to studying for final on Monday.. and then I can think about my future later on.

Thanks, David, for the info. My school doesn't have PharmD/PA program. I would have enrolled if the program existed... because of differences in pharmacy courses from, it is difficult to transfer from my program to that particular program that has the combined program without starting over or repeating courses. Actually, I was thinking about continuing in NP program after graduation "IF" (big if ) the pharmacy residency is too competitive to get in or I can't get a position I want. It's a better alternative than most pharmacy jobs where the knowledge is significantly under-utilized. Hopefully, NP program won't be all converted to DNP by the time I graduate. :) well... at least, I have a fallback plan.

Decided... PharmD. Right now. I am either wanting to go into academia, research. I want both degrees but I can't. At least, I have made a decision.