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Does an attorney help against PHMP/PNAP?
Yes it is all bs money making attempts. I believe my lawyer helped me just by having him & telling the evaluator I had legal counsel. Still waiting to see what his evaluation said & what the BON is going to do.
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Does an attorney help against PHMP/PNAP?
yes I received a letter from the BON to see their approved Dr for an evaluation with a date set already. I was required to have my medical records sent to him, then I sent my pharmacy records, resume and the police report. He looked up my DUI fines. Had To go to Pittsburgh had 2 hour evaluation nerve wracking and painful. Now I’m just waiting to hear back from the BON. My attorney said it can be upwards to 6 months before I hear back. Uuhhhhh. Thanks for asking.
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Does an attorney help against PHMP/PNAP?
Thank you! MetallicaRN. I have obtained an attorney...just waiting to hear from the BON. My attorney believes they will send me to a psychologist for evaluation. So stressful waiting not knowing and especially now with the pandemic I’m sure I’ll be waiting longer than normal. I appreciate your input!! Thanks spanked as well. I bit the bullet and paid for an attorney I know I don’t have an addiction and the program would not benefit me. Yes I felt bullied and made to feel like I was an alcoholic by PNAP!! Stay healthy!! Thanks again ?? ??
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Pennsylvania RN with first dui help with PNAP
Great advice!! Thanks so much!! Oh no 5 years ? awesome you’re on the other side!!
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Does an attorney help against PHMP/PNAP?
No I have not. I’m talking to 3 attorneys and they all said do not sign it. I haven’t received the contract yet. Thank you I appreciate your input! Yes I will find a way to pay for one. If I don’t I will regret not standing up for myself.
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Does an attorney help against PHMP/PNAP?
That’s how I feel and I think an attorney may still be able to help me even though I’ve already been evaluated ugh!!
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Pennsylvania RN with first dui help with PNAP
Have you used an attorney? I’m curious how many have and if they helped or not? On the fence thinking attorney may be my best option. I was “diagnosed” by PNAP approved provider with mild alcohol use disorder I do not have a drinking problem. Won’t be able to work as a nurse but still have to pay for sessions & testing. I work in home care have for over 5 years love my clients and families. Have great rapportwith my employer. I definitely will not be supervised there and not an option with the PNAP program. So I’ll be job searching with a Dui 14 year work history as a nurse and in the program plus I live in a small town not many job prospects. Ugh. So stressed decisions decisions
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Does an attorney help against PHMP/PNAP?
Have any nurses used an attorney versed in the BON to try and avoid going into PNAP program? Please let me know whether you think it was worth it or not. I haven’t found many who have. I’m scared to say I don’t want the program and the disciplinary actions after. Ugh thanks
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Pennsylvania RN with first dui help with PNAP
Beachbabe According to the provider I see a dilute urine is considered a positive drug screen for your drug of choice. Simply because it looks like you were drinking fluids to beat the UDS. However, It is usually dilute negative or dilute positive. I received a dilute negative but my provider said still positive for my drug of choice. ? I’m trying to find out how much water and coffee or anything else that can make it dilute cause I’ll be getting tested again and don’t want the same result. I drink a lot of water and coffee for weight loss so I definitely need to find out. Hope my response helps you.
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Pennsylvania RN with first dui help with PNAP
Spanked First of all sorry you have to go through this BS crooked program!! That being said I truly appreciate your straight forward and honest response. Im tired of people not being honest and having an ulterior motive for asking me questions. I don’t know who to trust. Purgatory is spot on!! Love the analogy!! I am going to contact an attorney in Philadelphia to see what my options are. I already had evaluation from PNAP approved provider, UDS and blood test with PEth level so I’m not sure if an attorney will help but I need to see for my own sanity. I find it hard to believe I was unable to find these attorneys until I googled nurse with mild alcohol use disorder!! I honestly looked before I had evaluation done and found nothing. Now I feel like everything I said is being used against me to make a diagnosis!!! Just frustrating and disheartening especially because now I’m on the radar and in this unjust system. I’m going to try my best to make the best informed decision. I definitely need all the luck, hopes, good vibes, prayers or whatever anyone can give me!! So thanks and I’m sure we’ll be chatting again.
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Have I finally adjusted emotionally to being stigmatized?
Are you in an assistance program in your state? Should t it protect your license so there aren’t any black marks or disciplinary action if you complete program successfully? In PA ours sounds kind of like ARD for nursing licenses but I’m not sure if the program helps nurses.
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Have I finally adjusted emotionally to being stigmatized?
Sorry to hear you are still being punished. We’re you in an assistance program? In PA the assistance program is PNAP. It is supposed to prevent any disciplinary action or public Mark on your license if you complete the program successfully.
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Pennsylvania RN with first dui help with PNAP
First of all I’m so sorry you are in the PNAP program it is unbelievable that your pmh is being used against you. I’m sorry your life and Bachelor’s program is now on hold. Yes I have heard it is actually longer than 3 years cause the BON takes a while longer to sign contract & then more time to reinstate your license. I hope your time in the program goes by fast and smoothly. It’s horrible especially cause you haven’t been able to work. I was told to have an evaluation by an approved care provider I chose one of the two places and spent almost $300 for the psychologist to tell me that I have a mild alcohol use disorder largely in part to my lab results. I am on the fence about an attorney because I don’t have the money I’m already in debt and will probably be losing my license soon. Also the nurses at group said save your money it’s not worth it. I have read only one nurse say she had a lawyer and he got the BON to close her case so she didn’t have to go into the program. I understand that I chose to drive while intoxicated and feel I should pay for my crime. However, I was already sentenced in court by the law. I received probation, fines, highway safety classes and driver’s license suspension. Now this!! I will look into fb group thank you for your input I appreciate any info! Losing it but not gonna drink just gonna prove myself!! Thanks again
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Pennsylvania RN with first dui help with PNAP
Thank you! I unfortunately I do not have my LPN. I was a CNA before I became a nurse. Great advice I’ll definitely have to look into whether I can fall back on my CNA. I appreciate any advice I’m losing my stuffing right now! Thank you again
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My probation begins Nov 26. Advice?
I’m about to enter PNAP nervous wreck thanks for your input
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Pennsylvania RN with first dui help with PNAP
I received my first DUI in October 2019 got pulled over for headlight out BrAC 0.137. BON notified me of PNAP program if diagnosed with substance use disorder. I had evaluation, UDS and blood peth test per recommendations. UDS was dilute and positive peth level about 175. Psychologist diagnosed me with mild alcohol use recommended me for individual and professional group. I have not received paperwork from BON requiring me to stop working using my RN license yet or the PNAP program contract. I currently work in homecare and will not be able to continue employment while in the program which is 3 years minimum. I am at a loss of what to do. I’ve been a nurse so long I am so anxious considering the cost of the program and not having a job. Looking for any advice regarding any thoughts on non-medical positions, nursing positions I can work while in the program. I have not drank since 11/24/19 and will not drink I am not an alcoholic but I did drink more than a normal person (if anyone knows what normal is). I believe it is unfair to treat a dilute urine as a positive and my high peth test as I have a problem when I was honest told psychologist that I drank more after Dui than I normally would but have not drank since PNAP case manager told me not to drink throughout the whole process. I find it hard to believe that nurses are subjected to such an injustice that we are held to the highest standards. I had no idea the repercussions on nurses who get a DUI. I don’t know if I should get an attorney that specializes in working with the BON or just save my money (that I don’t have) for testing and therapies?? Any help or input or information would be helpful. Thanks