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Basically what Rose said. I would recommend doing the MD license, one because you plan to work in MD and it is required, and two, you can apply for a California license after you gotten a Maryland license when you plan to work in California. Even if California was a compact state, you still have to apply. The difference is really processing time. Many states that are not compact, will grant people a temporary license while they go their process of background checks and so forth. Also, I would do the MD because the school is very familiar with the Maryland process and many of the common mistakes that students will do. Plus, someone is most likely going to applying for you, so they can help with the process. It can be quite cumbersome. I know when I was applying for jobs, several were outside Maryland. I explain I was applying for Maryland's because of the school's familiarity and so forth. I also explained I know whichever state the job was in, would honor it, but a matter of how long to get it and that worse case scenario, I would be using a temporary license. The placement coordinators/recruiters and managers all understood and did not express any issues/concerns with my decision. I was still offered some positions.

I don't know much about online-only schools. Clinical placements can be important because it a place to start building relationships to help get a job after graduating. This is true for any nursing program. I'm not sure how much people really should go by rankings to pick schools. It's more about picking a school that you think will help you achieve your goal or where you want to end up. Do go to a school with a solid reputation with teaching nursing skills and knowledge. Unless you at the top school, after a year or two, it's really about your work experience. If you go on for more advance studies, then the school you got your degree from may be look at more closely.

Not yet. It's a five semester program. We don't finish till May 2022

Yes. NVC is a first-come, first accepted for those who meet the qualifications. Thus, it is very important the time stamp you get on that application. I would suggest applying to other programs too. You may want to try Solano Community; not too far from NVC. If you have good grades (at least a 3.5 if not a 4.0) and TEAS score, and some other stuff--military vet, health experience, etc--you may want to try CSU schools. They're very competitive and it's all about the points--top scores get accepted. Thus, if you don't have a 4.0 and high 90s TEAS, you'll need the bonus points. You also may want to try for the schools with larger cohort sizes such as CSU East Bay. If you do not get accepted for the first attempt, keep trying. There is more than one way to become a nurse. You may need to move to attend the school that accepts you; I moved 2800 miles.

You'll probably find many applicants--admission offered, waited listed, and admission denied--all did the same thing. The 3000 characters probably around 450-500 words. If they did not do the limit, they would probably get essays that may have been 3000 words. It is essentially a time-saving maneuver for the admission committee to get through the applications in a timely manner since they do a holistic approach.

I can understand wanting or needing to stay local. I did not have the need to stay local, which is why I moved SF Bay Area to the east coast (2800 miles). I'll owe over $100K when done; I'm assuming in the $125K range, and that is with $27K in schalorships. These direct entry program are becoming more popular, ie more schools are starting to have the programs. The quickest route to the floor would be something that is a one year program such as ABSN or LVN/LPN. The cheapest route is an ADN program at a local community college. All other programs are approximately two years; generally five semesters. When I was applying, I did the local schools--ADN, BSN, MESN--that were state schools. I found the private schools were very expensive. Some ABSN programs were almost $80K in tuition. I applied to CSUs all over the state. I tried to schools that had larger cohort sizes (60+). I did apply to San Diego University because I wanted to move back to San Diego, but I knew it was long shot; I don't think I filled their two hundred hours of nurse shadowing with CNA school or work. I suggest being a bit open to moving, if possible because it could provide more options and opportunities for you. You can go to any approved school to take the NCLEX and be able to move to California. Heck, you can take the NCLEX in another state; from what I'm told, you indicate what state(s) you're taking for; I'm sure there's a fee for each state. I started applications for schools in Arizona, Texas, Maryland, and New York; there may have been more. I did not complete all of them for various reasons. If it wasn't so damn competitive and hard to get into nursing school, I would not make these suggestions. I've heard, but cannot validate, that California is even more difficult because of the demand. I know at my school, California students are second biggest pool of student body; Maryland is first. I personally don't know where I go when I"m done here. I may stay for a year to work; Maryland has a one year nursing residence requirement. I like the idea of being more eased into the career. I may move back and stay with my parents to pay more loans off faster.

You may want to consider a directly entry Masters programs as well. This is because several are the same amount of traditional ADN or BSN programs; approximately two years. It's another option. Several do not require and test scores (TEAS, HESI, GRE, etc). And like other programs, the public is significantly cheaper; private is expensive. There's probably no significant advantage to having the MSN when you first graduate. If you want to get into a management, leadership role, or pursue a more advance degree, it may be helpful; probably at least get you an interview. When I applying, I did ADN (2), BSN (4), and direct entry MSN (3). I got into one of each type of program. I was definitely in the upper middle of the applicant pool by the numbers. I ultimately went with the MSN at one of the most expensive programs in the country; it's also, if rankings mean anything, the top ranked for a MSN. I gave up a spot for the BSN. I ADN is for this fall in case something goes arie. Plus, I figured if I went ADN->BSN->MSN route through state schools, I would ultimately be spending about the same kind of money for the education; this is assuming no assistance from work or something. It'll save me approximately three years of time. I can give plenty of reasons of why not to choose these programs too. Considering how competitive any nursing program is to get into, it's another option to try. On a side note, it was way easier applying to law school than nursing school. Granted, I did that over ten years ago.

Don't forget the differing deadline dates and application processes. If it makes you feel any better, I applied to nine different schools--ADN, BSN, direct enter MSN. I got acceptance offers for one of each level. Some I missed out on because you have to apply to the university, wait a couple of months, then apply to the nursing school.

The programs will say somewhere on the website for applying about recency in regards to prereqs and TEAS/HESI scores. In general, most have a recency requirement of three to five years. I have seen some requiring a year; usually, this is the TEAS/HESI. General education usually does not fall under this.

I'm sure the name is worth something, but it's all in context. If you're applying to graduate school or something, sure. Maybe fresh out of school is might carry a little weight. After the first year, maybe two, it's more about work experience. Having the masters will help if you want to get into teaching or management. My guess, the name will help, to a degree, get job interviews. Maybe not as much around Maryland since there will be lots of people with degrees from JHU. On a side note, I would accept the ABSN program's offer. You can always give up your spot. Better to go somewhere, than nowhere. If you offered a spot at JHU SON, then you have a decision to make. I assume you haven't gotten other offers for admission besides the ABSN at this point. I would not overlook the cost and loans you may acquire at any program you attend.

This becomes an interesting situation because more and more states are legalizing marijuana use--medicinal or recreational (https://disa.com/map-of-marijuana-legality-by-state). It appears Maryland is medicinal or decriminalized. Where it is legal by state, then it would be similar to alcohol. That said, this is still illegal on the federal level. Thus, this can be an issue depending on the employer or program. The federal programs could possibly include language against its use for things like student aid. All that said, I'm not implying one way or the other to legality of regarding any of this. That is for the courts to decide. Although, I wouldn't show up to work, clinical, or labs having recently used anything that could possibly impair you.

This is what I would recommend and did. Most people take more than four years to complete their bachelor's. Plus, there are many people who are unable to go full time so it takes several years to earn their bachelor's. NursingCAS will actually break it down by credits anyway by credits. They actually do several breakdowns of your academic performance--math, science, and other general topics. Unless your GPA dropped significantly the last year or two (Junior or Senior), I do not think it's a significant factor. It may help is you had significant improvement. In regards to JHU SON, it's only probably only a minimal factor about the year. They're going to look more at your cumulative GPA (to see if it is in the 3.00 GPA range) the science GPA, and those four key science courses are B- or better (they're very strict on this one). The GPA is more a gauge for them to see if you can handle the academics rigors of the program; Those core science course information are needed from the get-go in the program. I understand your situation. I had take a years worth of colleges courses after obtaining my bachelor's at various local community colleges. There's not a option for it other than senior; NursingCAS categorized them as post-graduate undergraduate classes.

That is definitely true. For some, this is the dream school. I did not know this program existed till I attended one of those virtual nursing school fairs. I did not these programs existed till I started working as a CNA and a charge nurse told me about them. I do appreciate your sharing your experience, especially after finishing the program. The debt was a concern the moment I was accepted into the program. I know many of my classmates felt/feel the same.

I can't necessarily disagree about your happiness points, but there are assumptions along with it. It's added stress, but people rack up that kind of debt or more on houses, cars, and whatever else (that runs up the credit cards). They're not necessarily unhappy; probably not jumping for joy either. And burnout is probably more due to patient-nurse ratios since California is the only state that has legislation specifically regarding this. Although hours worked I would agree is a contributing factor. I went to JHU SON information session. One of the first things the recruiter/admissions director said was JHU is very expensive. They're not disillusioned about their cost. I've seen other private nursing schools that were even more expensive. I agree there are cheaper routes to become a nurse. The unfortunate reality is those schools are very difficult to get into. The cheapest option is a local community college, but most are some kind of lottery system not. Some of the first-come, first-served if you qualify. Some community colleges will guarantee admission after so many tries; the community college I attended was four years. Before the lottery, it was a three-year waitlist. In California, the CSU system, for BSN, is nothing but a competition based on GPAs, TEAS/HESI, and some miscellaneous items--veteran, health experience, location, school, or whatever else the school deems appropriate. None of them have a guaranteed admission after so many tries. As mentioned earlier, in general, the schools get five hundred applications for spots. The number of applications seems to be fairly similar across schools, but the number of spots varies from thirty-ish to seventy. And given the economy, applications for schools tend to increase. I got into CSU East Bay's nursing program and the rumor during orientation was they had almost a thousand applicants for sixty spots. On a side note, I was going to have to graduate school fees and rates. JHU is not easy to into either, but odds wise, students have a higher chance. I'm not being obtuse to your point that JHU SON is more than likely going to accrue a lot of debt for a job that will probably pay half what one owes starting out. In reality, this is true for most people getting any kind of college education; there are a few exceptions. It can add a lot of stress on how making ends meet, and there are plenty of negative results that arise from that stress. My point is not necessarily to say to go JHU despite the debt one will likely accumulate. One should definitely take into consideration and compare to their options. It's more about having realistic expectations on the debt, likely hood of getting employment, and the kind of employment. In addition, the lifestyle and sacrifices one is may need to do after graduation because of the loans. The one thing that is not mentioned and may need to be considered is time. If one did the ADN->BSN->MSN route, one would be looking at four to six years of school; this does not include the earlier school for prerequisites. The cost, even if one went to state schools, would only be slightly cheaper than JHU or any other private school direct entry MSN program. Granted, once one is an RN, many are able to work during school which helps offset the loans; does not make it cheaper. For some, the extra cost is worth it because of the time saved. This was a big factor in my choice.

That program does exist. Unfortunately, recent history has shown the program will use anything to disqualify someone even if it was five years prior. It was in the news quite a bit one or two years ago because of it. I think there is a class action lawsuit because of it. With new president-elect, Joe Biden, this may change if he tries to stick with some of his campaign talks. And there are other programs that do similar. California has a similar program that I know off the top of my head. Other programs work differently and some do not require a ten-year commitment. Personally, I think it's kind of fubar to have to work ten years to get paid debt. In the meantime, you still need to make the payments.

This is a big assumption on pay. One's starting wage is going to depend on previous experience, location, and employer. Some people will earn more, while others may earn less. Unfortunately, there are many people in the USA that take on that kind of debt and earn a whole lot less. The rest is good general advice in that the opportunities you get are the ones you create. I cannot tell you whether going to JHU SON is a good decision or not. I've only started recently. I can tell you, no matter what nursing school you go to, you're going to question your decision or choosing the school or nursing.

I cannot disagree with the points given. I think some people think they're going to make more fresh out of nursing with the direct entry MSN versus the BSN. One may have more education, but still don't know a thing because of lack of floor time. The MSN and, maybe the JHU name, can be factors later in one's career. It's pretty obvious one is probably going to rack up at least $100K in debt because the tuition along is at least $100K. One still needs to eat and a place to live. I think some people rack up more debt because of lifestyle choices. Going out to eat, Starbucks, and so forth will add up over two years. Without a breakdown of the debt people are leaving the program with, one cannot be definitive. Given most people are in the mid-20s to 30s, it would not be unrealistic to see many go into the program with significant debt, even more, likely if one went to private school for their bachelor's. I think the national average debt for a bachelor's degree is $35K. A lot of this is going to come down to options, one's end goal, and realistic outlook, and if they feel the program will get them there. If being a nurse is all one wants, I couldn't recommend going to the local community college's program, where the total tuition for the program will run around $5K. From there you can go to ADN to BSN bridge program and spend another $8-$15 at the local state university. Like mentioned before, I would not choose this program solely for the name of the degree and think it's a be a key to open all doors in a nursing career. This is similar to going into nursing for the money nurses make; a sure way to get burn out. If you can plan ahead, wrap your head around you're going to leave the program will enough debt that in some states you could buy a house outright, then it may not be a bad choice. On a side note, I don't recall any private university being cheap at any level of education. Places like USC, Stanford, Loyola Marymount (sp?), Pepperdine, and so forth are around $50K per semester at the undergraduate level; that's $200K for a bachelor's. The nice thing, in general, they do not charge more for out of state students.

I submitted four--three academic and one professional.

The SON does your schedule. They also assign your clinical site. The later terms, you can ask for some clinical sites, but not guaranteed. Your classes are picked for you, but you can pick with time. I think fourth, but definitely for fifth, you can pick one elective class. This is probably a very common scenario for most nursing schools.

Schalorship monies vary. I've heard anywhere from $10K to $70K. I've talked to students from previous cohorts and some had almost all the tuition paid because of Peace Corps service. There are several scholarship that school offers That said, JHU has sent email saying they are facing some financial strain because of COVID and the restrictions. It is possible the SON may not have as much money for these scholarships, which could mean lower amounts. The good news, per se, unlike some other schools, they haven't raised tuition. Don't worry, the tuition bills still hurts when you see it.

There are a lots of different ideas and opinions. Hopefully, one is not picking JHU solely because of the name. Yes, it probably does matter in the grand scheme of things where you go to school, especially after you have a few years of experience. If cost is really a big issue, then maybe a local community college is a better option since the cost, who out living expenses, is around $5000. It's possible to get a management job with a direct entry MSN degree. Highly unlikely since quite a few people will have no floor time experience. Thus, how can you really manage you don't fully understand. There are people with floor or health experience from something other than nursing. Realize, when you graduate, you're still going to be green as a blade of grass. You may have a bit more education, but not much difference from someone with a BSN or ADN. The name on the degree will probably get you an interview and maybe towards the top selections. Later on, after some experience, the MSN and the JHU name will probably help you get those management positions. If you want to go into teaching, you're probably going to need a MSN or higher; plus some experience. As for DNP program, most people work a year or two. It is possible to go directly the the DNP program. I think the critical care DNP requires at least one year of experience as an RN, maybe critical care. The nice thing about JHU in regards the DNP, you can transfer up to 16 units of your MSN work towards the DNP; I think you have to start within five years of graduation. The first year is a lot of classroom work. Thus, you could possible work part time while in the DNP program. It's possible to save some money or keep the cost down.

The tution alone is $100K for the five terms. This is what the expenses for the first year by the financial department Please note, this is for fall, Summer, and Spring. There is still another Fall and Spring to go. Remember, some cost can be lower than estimated such as rent, health cost, food, and so forth depending on your lifestyles choices. I realize some people may have money from other sources to pay for this such as family, scholarships, and so forth. Thus, it's not so much the school costs, but the end costs afterwards and what you're willing to take on

That was nice of them. Although, I wouldn't have really bothered unless is caused inconsistencies or confusion in your essay(ies). I have no idea how SON does the application process review, but I'm guessing they look at the essays and other information separately rather than all at once. I think they look at the transcripts and biographical information for the initial elimination. Then they look at the essays, addendums, resume, and so forth. Thus, they've seen you have a masters. At the same time, by the time they get to reading the essays, they're not necessarily going to remember, so they're not going to see the conflict of information. Remember, they're about a holistic approach in regard to offering admission. They're looking for the people that best fit their ideal candidate versus the ones with the most education or highest grades/GPA. I'm sure people who are manga cum laude and plenty of research or health experience will not be offered admission, yet someone with 3.0gpa, and minimal work/professional experience will be. And some people not offered admission will be offered elsewhere at very good schools too.

I cannot comment about what the school is doing during these COVID times, but I know last year, they gave the early decision accepted people one month. The reason is they need to know how many spots they're going to have for the regular deadline people. This was told to me by one of the admission council personnel. With that said, my suggestion would be to apply for the early deadline. My thinking is you may have a decision early. If rejected, you can then wait to see if one your other schools offers you admission. If accepted, you can accept it (you'll need to pay the (I think) $500 deposit. If your dream school you're set. If not your dream school, and you're accepted to a school that you feel will better fit your needs, you can always give up your spot. It'll only cost you $500. I do acknowledge this could be a lot of money to spend for something that may choose not to attend. Then again, it is better to give up a spot than to never be offered one. The "bad" situation, per se, is if you get waitlisted. You're not in or out. Thus, you have still go as if you're rejected and work towards getting in somewhere, but hope you get that offer later. End of the day, it's about getting in somewhere first since competition is fierce for all direct entry nursing programs--ADN, BSN, MSN, etc. If you have choices, you're in a good spot.

I answered all three for Fall 2020 cohort. My thinking is the more information I provide, the more information for them to get to know me and see if I fit their ideal candidate. Of course, it could have given them information to not offer admission. Don't forget that last question at the end of the application that is only one or two sentences; I think it was 300 characters total.