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FALL 2020 Johns Hopkins MSN: Entry into Nursing
Basically what Rose said. I would recommend doing the MD license, one because you plan to work in MD and it is required, and two, you can apply for a California license after you gotten a Maryland license when you plan to work in California. Even if California was a compact state, you still have to apply. The difference is really processing time. Many states that are not compact, will grant people a temporary license while they go their process of background checks and so forth. Also, I would do the MD because the school is very familiar with the Maryland process and many of the common mistakes that students will do. Plus, someone is most likely going to applying for you, so they can help with the process. It can be quite cumbersome. I know when I was applying for jobs, several were outside Maryland. I explain I was applying for Maryland's because of the school's familiarity and so forth. I also explained I know whichever state the job was in, would honor it, but a matter of how long to get it and that worse case scenario, I would be using a temporary license. The placement coordinators/recruiters and managers all understood and did not express any issues/concerns with my decision. I was still offered some positions.
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Would you recommend a direct-entry Masters Program or Accelerated BSN?
I don't know much about online-only schools. Clinical placements can be important because it a place to start building relationships to help get a job after graduating. This is true for any nursing program. I'm not sure how much people really should go by rankings to pick schools. It's more about picking a school that you think will help you achieve your goal or where you want to end up. Do go to a school with a solid reputation with teaching nursing skills and knowledge. Unless you at the top school, after a year or two, it's really about your work experience. If you go on for more advance studies, then the school you got your degree from may be look at more closely.
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Napa Valley College Spring 2021 Applicants
Yes. NVC is a first-come, first accepted for those who meet the qualifications. Thus, it is very important the time stamp you get on that application. I would suggest applying to other programs too. You may want to try Solano Community; not too far from NVC. If you have good grades (at least a 3.5 if not a 4.0) and TEAS score, and some other stuff--military vet, health experience, etc--you may want to try CSU schools. They're very competitive and it's all about the points--top scores get accepted. Thus, if you don't have a 4.0 and high 90s TEAS, you'll need the bonus points. You also may want to try for the schools with larger cohort sizes such as CSU East Bay. If you do not get accepted for the first attempt, keep trying. There is more than one way to become a nurse. You may need to move to attend the school that accepts you; I moved 2800 miles.
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FALL 2020 Johns Hopkins MSN: Entry into Nursing
You'll probably find many applicants--admission offered, waited listed, and admission denied--all did the same thing. The 3000 characters probably around 450-500 words. If they did not do the limit, they would probably get essays that may have been 3000 words. It is essentially a time-saving maneuver for the admission committee to get through the applications in a timely manner since they do a holistic approach.
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CSULB FALL 2020
I can understand wanting or needing to stay local. I did not have the need to stay local, which is why I moved SF Bay Area to the east coast (2800 miles). I'll owe over $100K when done; I'm assuming in the $125K range, and that is with $27K in schalorships. These direct entry program are becoming more popular, ie more schools are starting to have the programs. The quickest route to the floor would be something that is a one year program such as ABSN or LVN/LPN. The cheapest route is an ADN program at a local community college. All other programs are approximately two years; generally five semesters. When I was applying, I did the local schools--ADN, BSN, MESN--that were state schools. I found the private schools were very expensive. Some ABSN programs were almost $80K in tuition. I applied to CSUs all over the state. I tried to schools that had larger cohort sizes (60+). I did apply to San Diego University because I wanted to move back to San Diego, but I knew it was long shot; I don't think I filled their two hundred hours of nurse shadowing with CNA school or work. I suggest being a bit open to moving, if possible because it could provide more options and opportunities for you. You can go to any approved school to take the NCLEX and be able to move to California. Heck, you can take the NCLEX in another state; from what I'm told, you indicate what state(s) you're taking for; I'm sure there's a fee for each state. I started applications for schools in Arizona, Texas, Maryland, and New York; there may have been more. I did not complete all of them for various reasons. If it wasn't so damn competitive and hard to get into nursing school, I would not make these suggestions. I've heard, but cannot validate, that California is even more difficult because of the demand. I know at my school, California students are second biggest pool of student body; Maryland is first. I personally don't know where I go when I"m done here. I may stay for a year to work; Maryland has a one year nursing residence requirement. I like the idea of being more eased into the career. I may move back and stay with my parents to pay more loans off faster.
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CSULB FALL 2020
You may want to consider a directly entry Masters programs as well. This is because several are the same amount of traditional ADN or BSN programs; approximately two years. It's another option. Several do not require and test scores (TEAS, HESI, GRE, etc). And like other programs, the public is significantly cheaper; private is expensive. There's probably no significant advantage to having the MSN when you first graduate. If you want to get into a management, leadership role, or pursue a more advance degree, it may be helpful; probably at least get you an interview. When I applying, I did ADN (2), BSN (4), and direct entry MSN (3). I got into one of each type of program. I was definitely in the upper middle of the applicant pool by the numbers. I ultimately went with the MSN at one of the most expensive programs in the country; it's also, if rankings mean anything, the top ranked for a MSN. I gave up a spot for the BSN. I ADN is for this fall in case something goes arie. Plus, I figured if I went ADN->BSN->MSN route through state schools, I would ultimately be spending about the same kind of money for the education; this is assuming no assistance from work or something. It'll save me approximately three years of time. I can give plenty of reasons of why not to choose these programs too. Considering how competitive any nursing program is to get into, it's another option to try. On a side note, it was way easier applying to law school than nursing school. Granted, I did that over ten years ago.
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CSULB FALL 2020
Don't forget the differing deadline dates and application processes. If it makes you feel any better, I applied to nine different schools--ADN, BSN, direct enter MSN. I got acceptance offers for one of each level. Some I missed out on because you have to apply to the university, wait a couple of months, then apply to the nursing school.
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CSULB FALL 2020
The programs will say somewhere on the website for applying about recency in regards to prereqs and TEAS/HESI scores. In general, most have a recency requirement of three to five years. I have seen some requiring a year; usually, this is the TEAS/HESI. General education usually does not fall under this.
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Johns Hopkins Entry into Nursing (MSN) Spring 2021
I'm sure the name is worth something, but it's all in context. If you're applying to graduate school or something, sure. Maybe fresh out of school is might carry a little weight. After the first year, maybe two, it's more about work experience. Having the masters will help if you want to get into teaching or management. My guess, the name will help, to a degree, get job interviews. Maybe not as much around Maryland since there will be lots of people with degrees from JHU. On a side note, I would accept the ABSN program's offer. You can always give up your spot. Better to go somewhere, than nowhere. If you offered a spot at JHU SON, then you have a decision to make. I assume you haven't gotten other offers for admission besides the ABSN at this point. I would not overlook the cost and loans you may acquire at any program you attend.
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Johns Hopkins Entry into Nursing (MSN) Spring 2021
This becomes an interesting situation because more and more states are legalizing marijuana use--medicinal or recreational (https://disa.com/map-of-marijuana-legality-by-state). It appears Maryland is medicinal or decriminalized. Where it is legal by state, then it would be similar to alcohol. That said, this is still illegal on the federal level. Thus, this can be an issue depending on the employer or program. The federal programs could possibly include language against its use for things like student aid. All that said, I'm not implying one way or the other to legality of regarding any of this. That is for the courts to decide. Although, I wouldn't show up to work, clinical, or labs having recently used anything that could possibly impair you.
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Johns Hopkins Entry into Nursing (MSN) Spring 2021
This is what I would recommend and did. Most people take more than four years to complete their bachelor's. Plus, there are many people who are unable to go full time so it takes several years to earn their bachelor's. NursingCAS will actually break it down by credits anyway by credits. They actually do several breakdowns of your academic performance--math, science, and other general topics. Unless your GPA dropped significantly the last year or two (Junior or Senior), I do not think it's a significant factor. It may help is you had significant improvement. In regards to JHU SON, it's only probably only a minimal factor about the year. They're going to look more at your cumulative GPA (to see if it is in the 3.00 GPA range) the science GPA, and those four key science courses are B- or better (they're very strict on this one). The GPA is more a gauge for them to see if you can handle the academics rigors of the program; Those core science course information are needed from the get-go in the program. I understand your situation. I had take a years worth of colleges courses after obtaining my bachelor's at various local community colleges. There's not a option for it other than senior; NursingCAS categorized them as post-graduate undergraduate classes.
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Johns Hopkins Entry into Nursing (MSN) Spring 2021
That is definitely true. For some, this is the dream school. I did not know this program existed till I attended one of those virtual nursing school fairs. I did not these programs existed till I started working as a CNA and a charge nurse told me about them. I do appreciate your sharing your experience, especially after finishing the program. The debt was a concern the moment I was accepted into the program. I know many of my classmates felt/feel the same.
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Johns Hopkins Entry into Nursing (MSN) Spring 2021
I can't necessarily disagree about your happiness points, but there are assumptions along with it. It's added stress, but people rack up that kind of debt or more on houses, cars, and whatever else (that runs up the credit cards). They're not necessarily unhappy; probably not jumping for joy either. And burnout is probably more due to patient-nurse ratios since California is the only state that has legislation specifically regarding this. Although hours worked I would agree is a contributing factor. I went to JHU SON information session. One of the first things the recruiter/admissions director said was JHU is very expensive. They're not disillusioned about their cost. I've seen other private nursing schools that were even more expensive. I agree there are cheaper routes to become a nurse. The unfortunate reality is those schools are very difficult to get into. The cheapest option is a local community college, but most are some kind of lottery system not. Some of the first-come, first-served if you qualify. Some community colleges will guarantee admission after so many tries; the community college I attended was four years. Before the lottery, it was a three-year waitlist. In California, the CSU system, for BSN, is nothing but a competition based on GPAs, TEAS/HESI, and some miscellaneous items--veteran, health experience, location, school, or whatever else the school deems appropriate. None of them have a guaranteed admission after so many tries. As mentioned earlier, in general, the schools get five hundred applications for spots. The number of applications seems to be fairly similar across schools, but the number of spots varies from thirty-ish to seventy. And given the economy, applications for schools tend to increase. I got into CSU East Bay's nursing program and the rumor during orientation was they had almost a thousand applicants for sixty spots. On a side note, I was going to have to graduate school fees and rates. JHU is not easy to into either, but odds wise, students have a higher chance. I'm not being obtuse to your point that JHU SON is more than likely going to accrue a lot of debt for a job that will probably pay half what one owes starting out. In reality, this is true for most people getting any kind of college education; there are a few exceptions. It can add a lot of stress on how making ends meet, and there are plenty of negative results that arise from that stress. My point is not necessarily to say to go JHU despite the debt one will likely accumulate. One should definitely take into consideration and compare to their options. It's more about having realistic expectations on the debt, likely hood of getting employment, and the kind of employment. In addition, the lifestyle and sacrifices one is may need to do after graduation because of the loans. The one thing that is not mentioned and may need to be considered is time. If one did the ADN->BSN->MSN route, one would be looking at four to six years of school; this does not include the earlier school for prerequisites. The cost, even if one went to state schools, would only be slightly cheaper than JHU or any other private school direct entry MSN program. Granted, once one is an RN, many are able to work during school which helps offset the loans; does not make it cheaper. For some, the extra cost is worth it because of the time saved. This was a big factor in my choice.
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Johns Hopkins Entry into Nursing (MSN) Spring 2021
That program does exist. Unfortunately, recent history has shown the program will use anything to disqualify someone even if it was five years prior. It was in the news quite a bit one or two years ago because of it. I think there is a class action lawsuit because of it. With new president-elect, Joe Biden, this may change if he tries to stick with some of his campaign talks. And there are other programs that do similar. California has a similar program that I know off the top of my head. Other programs work differently and some do not require a ten-year commitment. Personally, I think it's kind of fubar to have to work ten years to get paid debt. In the meantime, you still need to make the payments.