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Please help recent Excelsior graduates to get the ksbn decision changed. If their decision does not change we must repeat the year over or be forced into another profession. Write to the governor, & ksbn board members expressing your opinion why they should change their decision. Unfortunately this affects us all, because Kansas is trying to make Excelsior degrees worthless, and with the nursing shortages already, this will decrease the amount of new grads. As nurses we know that distance education is the way of the future and Excelsior college is the beginning of it all.

Here are there emails:

Here is the emails of the governor & ksbn members if anyone is willing to write:

http://www.ksgovernor.org/comment.html (Just fill in the comment form)

[email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],wall...n.s tate.ks.us,

(These are all the board members for Kansas Board of Nursing, I just sent one email to all of them, copy & paste their names into your email)

Thanks to anyone who is willing to help.

Jamie

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Letter sent to all of the above. I hope this works out for you Kansas nurses. I think at the very least, you all deserve a valid explanation for this decision.

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Letter sent to all of the above. I hope this works out for you Kansas nurses. I think at the very least, you all deserve a valid explanation for this decision.

Well there is a valid explination. Curent KS law and regulation were written in the days when traditional was the only choice out there.

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I wrote to all of the above and so have gotten 3 responses from KS board members, including this from the KS BON president:

"Thank you for your input and concern. I assure you that KSBN did not make the decision without considerable discussion and input from the Assistant Attorney General. The issue will again be addressed at the March meeting."

The other 2 responses were about the same.

I'd like to find out and write to whoever the assistant attorney general is in that state that provided so much "input."

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Here is the response I got:

March 14, 2005

Dear Ms. _____________,

Thank you for your recent letter about the decision the Kansas State Board of Nursing (KSBN) made on December 15 which assures compliance with regulations that a clinical component be an integral part of the educational program. The following regulations are the basis of the decision the board made.

1.Pursuant to K.S.A. 65-1115(a)(2) and 65-1116(a)(2), applicants for licensure must have graduated from an approved school of nursing;

2.K.A.R. 60-2-104© and (d) establish that, in order to be approved, a nursing program must provide clinical experience;

3.K.A.R. 60-2-104(a)(3) further provides that the faculty in each nursing program must "direct clinical instruction as an integral part of the program;"

4.K.A.R. 60-1-104(e) requires a nursing program's clinical component to consist of "an active process in which the student participates in nursing activities while being guided by a member of the faculty"; and

5.Per K.S.A. 65-1119(f), an out-of-state school must maintain standards at least equal to in-state schools approved by the board in order for the board to consider graduates of that school qualified for licensure.

The board reviewed and asked the Attorney General's office to review the statutes and regulations for approval of nursing programs and for licensure within the state. This was done because of the recent increase of inquiries from nursing education programs that do not include clinical component in their curriculum.

When a School of Nursing does not require direct clinical instruction and its curriculum does not include student participation in nursing activities in an actual clinical setting under the guidance of faculty members, it does not meet the requirements in Kansas. If a School of Nursing does not meet the requirement, their graduates are not qualified for licensure in Kansas either as a new student or as an endorsement into Kansas.

Performance examinations alone do not meet the requirements of direct clinical instruction as an integral part of the program or an active process in which the student participates in nursing activities while being guided by a member of the faculty. Therefore, if programs do not have a comprehensive clinical component, graduates will not qualify for licensure in Kansas. Graduates of nursing programs that lack a clinical component who have obtained a nursing license in another state will not be qualified to obtain licensure in Kansas by endorsement. These persons must meet the Kansas qualifications for licensure.

This was not an easy decision the board made. The mission of the Board of Nursing is to assure the citizens of Kansas safe and competent practice by nurses and mental health technicians. The statues and regulations help ensure the mission is achieved and thus, the decision was made compliance with regulations that require a clinical component be an integral part of the educational program.

KSBN continues to conduct open dialog with Excelsior College's School of Nursing to assist them to meet the requirements of the regulations.

I understand your concern, and the board continues to look for solutions to assist the both the students of Excelsior and Excelsior College's School of Nursing to meet the requirements of licensure in Kansas.

Please feel free to contact me if you have further questions or concerns.

Sincerely,

Nancy Mosbaek, PhD, RN

Education Specialist

Kansas State Board of Nursing

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Does this law also null any clinical experience you had, if you took a structured LPN program? (meaning the law would be similar to FL)?

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Does this law also null any clinical experience you had, if you took a structured LPN program? (meaning the law would be similar to FL)?

As it is written now, it is not like FL, meaning your clinical time in an LPN program would not matter. As of right now, absolutely no one who graduated from EC, LPN or not, is allowed licensure by exam or endorsement.

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I found this link that you guys might be interested in ... p. 3

http://skyways.lib.ks.us/ksleg/KLRD/2005SessionSubcommitteeReports/FY2006_Nursing_SR.pdf

The Budget Committee notes the current situation with Excelsior College, an online nursing program based in New York with students in Kansas. These students were recently notified that they would not be granted a license to practice in Kansas due to a deficiency in the clinical portion of the education required by the Board of Nursing.

The Budget Committee notes its understanding that representatives from Excelsior will be present at the March, 2005 BON meeting. The Budget Committee requests that the Board of Nursing report back prior to the Omnibus as to the outcome of the meeting. Additionally, the Budget Committee requests that the agency formalize its policies in regard to out-of-state nursing programs.

The Budget Committee notes its belief that the BON and Excelsior will be able to resolve the situation without penalizing the current Kansas students of Excelsior College who are enrolled in the nursing program, while ensuring the safety of Kansas residents is not jeopardized.

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I just received this e-mail fron the president of the KS BON:

"The current enrollees of Excelsior will be receiving a letter about the decisions made at the March meeting. Accomodations have been made to allow current students some options for becoming licensed in KS. If you do not receive such a letter, please contact personnel at Excelsior or the Education Specialist at KSBN."

This was sent right after their latest board meeting a couple of days ago.

Not sure what kind of hoops to jump through that they may have in mind with their "options" but it's a ray of hope for those in KS.

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