Passing meds you did not pull.

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Specializes in Long Term Facilitly.

Hypothetically......if the unit you were assigned to, was made to split a medication cart.........and if one LPN wanted you to administer meds while she pulled the meds...would you? And if this LPN was so familiar (ugh) with the residents, she pulls medications without looking at the MAR, would you still? And the meds are already crushed and you really have NO IDEA what you are administering, would you still even then? And if you really had no choice because the nurse never would give you the keys to the med cart so you could pass your own...then what? And then if the D.O.N. states they really don't want to make two sets of key...then what? Then when you get the chance (while she is at lunch) to view the M.A.R., some meds she signed off while others she did not...and when you inform her of this, she wants you to sign those off. Not to mention.....you never witnessed the narc count nor where you given report about the patients. Hypothetically, what would you do? And hypothetically say alll shifts do this on this particular unit...so if you complain you are going to be targeted, that is hypothetically.

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Um. Think that scenario would stand up in court or before the Board?

Not just no. Hell no.

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Even as a fairly new nursing student, I have had it pounded into my brain that you NEVER give meds that you didn't personally pull yourself.

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Specializes in NICU.

Not in a million years.

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Specializes in icu, er, transplant, case management, ps.

Since I am a staff relief nurse or just newly hired, I would quit. And to answer all your questions, that is simple NO.

Woody:balloons:

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Specializes in pediatric and geriatric.

the nurse who pours the meds needs to administer them and document it. I can remember orienting in LTC with one cart and two nurses and what we did is take turns. She would pour and document her meds and while she administered them I would pour and document mine and administer them when she got back. But really if your not on orientation you should have your own keys at least. Sound like she may just not like to actually give the meds to the patient. I would not give a med another nurse poured ever.

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Forgot to add...

If the hypothetical nurse continues to work under these conditions, she may as well just mail her license back to the BON. Saves everyone the time and headaches and paperwork.

That hypothetical nurse needs to get the heck out of Dodge and make some phone calls to the appropriate regulatory boards.

But then, you knew that didn't you ;)

Good luck.

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Specializes in NICU.
And then if the D.O.N. states they really don't want to make two sets of key...then what?

Then I might mention that a few bucks for a new set of keys is a lot cheaper than a med-mal lawsuit...

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Wow that uh "hypothetical" situation sounds very dangerous. Like I would write down everything that was going on dangerous. Maybe talk to a regulatory agency dangerous.

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Specializes in Cardiac.

I would hypothetically get a new job-pronto~!

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Uh Not No But Hell No Also! And The Charge Nurse Can Go To Hell To! I Would Quit And Be Out Of There In A New York Minute! Remember Thats Your License!!!! Everyone Has Their Own!!! Remember How Hard U Worked To Get It!!!!

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Specializes in Long Term Facilitly.

I must hypothetically say this really would of freaked me out. And this will NEVER happen, hypothetically or not, again. What a mess. Thanks all of you for answering whatI knew you would.

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