MSN vs. PhD

Editorial Team / Admin · May 12, 2008

It's not PhD. It will be the Doctorate of Nursing Practice (DNP) and is slated for the CRNAs around 2025. Here is a current thread of discussion:

https://allnurses.com/forums/f16/2015-official-296780.html

ljmb · May 12, 2008

Thank you.

I know so little about this...the thread you provided will help.

Regards,

LJMB

Editorial Team / Admin · May 12, 2008

You are quite welcome.

INFIDEL, CRNA · May 18, 2008

Just wanted to ask those who are either in CRNA school or who are out and practicing...
What is your opinion on the upcoming PhD entry for practice?
I will be applying to 3 different CRNA programs this fall and want to understand the issues...and be able to articulate my opinion (if asked).
What can you tell me??
Is this a good thing?
Will it happen?
What's the benefit?
Downsides?
THank you!
LJMB

I think it is SILLY... just as I think it is silly I SHOULD be signing my name CRNA APN...lumping CRNAs with APNs was a bad move on the part of my states BON.

This is being done for a couple of reasons.. the LEAST of which is, during you CRNA MSN, MSA etc,, you will be doing MORE didactic and MORE clinical work than nursey nurse DNS programs.

Yes there are idiots in the AANA also.

badgernurse · May 18, 2008

Here's the position statement from the AANA:

http://www.aacn.nche.edu/DNP/DNPPositionStatement.htm

Here's a fluff piece on the whole thing:

http://www.nurseweek.com/news/Features/05-05/DoctorOfNursingPractice_print.html

The whole thing was cooked up by the AACN to supposedly give APNs more authority (yet there will be no more authority), respect (who cares), and "parity with" other professions such as therapists, pharmacists and if you can believe it-docs. I for one think I'll see my taxes go down before I see parity with docs.

I've looked into a couple programs. With the exception of VCU, you're looking at business, leadership, research courses. I do not see much clinical relevance.