HR 5688 Act

deepz · Jul 27, 2006

Hi Everyone,
I am still just a BSN student with my heart set on a future as a CRNA. I was handed a newsletter today that had a very brief and undetailed article about HR5688 - The Healthcare Truth and Transparency Act. In the article the American Association of Nurse Anesthetists was mentioned as a strong opposition group and I am just wondering if some of you can help me understand what this is about and how it could - if it actually has potential to go anywhere - have impact on the field.
Thanks for your comments!

http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/bills.text/109/h5688.pdf

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BeatOU · Jul 30, 2006

Sounds like a little Dr. lobbying attempting to come to fruition...

burn out · Jul 30, 2006

why would anyone be against a bill that require a health care provider to be honest with the patient about their education and training. yes it does make a difference with me, if i am really , really sick i would want to see a

md, minor stuff i am comfortable with a do but give me the information so that i can make an informed decision. a good example for the law is at my hospital a new supposedly md came to our rural hospital. he was suppose to be an anesthesiologist but now was specializing in orthopedic surgery

(red flag:why). after performing numerous new procedures on patients, procedures never heard of before (porcelan hip replacement?) and numerous mrsa infections it was found out that this guy never was an

md or do , he had some training as a pa but was never even licensed to do that. this guy skipped my state and went to kentucky and was found there and is not practicing in georgia and alabama. .... we need laws to protect people from him and others like him. what better way than mandatory disclosure of education

and experience.

info re case:

tragic: malpractice harm

camss: doctor changes names in alabama

checked pa license records-- doctorwas osteopath trainee (intern) in 1991 in pa; licensed for 1 yr only.

burn out · Jul 30, 2006

This guy skipped my state and went to Kentucky and was found

there and is now practicing in Georgia and Alabama.

Sorry for typo.

BeatOU · Jul 30, 2006

there are already laws against impersonating an MD. why pass another, just enforce the ones we have

PANurseRN1 · Jul 30, 2006

Why would anyone be against a bill that require a health care provider to be honest with the patient about their education and training. Yes it does make a difference with me, If I am really , really sick I would want to see a
MD, minor stuff I am comfortable with a DO but give me the information so that I can make an informed decision. A good example for the law is at my hospital a new supposedly MD came to our rural hospital. He was suppose to be an Anesthesiologist but now was specializing in Orthopedic surgery
(red flag:Why). After performing numerous new procedures on patients, procedures never heard of before (porcelan hip replacement?) and numerous MRSA infections it was found out that this guy never was an
MD or DO , he had some training as a PA but was never even licensed to
do that. This guy skipped my state and went to Kentucky and was found
there and is not practicing in Georgia and Alabama. By the way his name is
where I live. We need laws to protect people from him and others like him. What better way than mandatory disclosure of education
and experience.

???

MDs and DOs are physicians, period. DOs are not "lesser" physicians. Maybe you don't have many DOs in your area and therefore have limited experience with them, but please don't perpetuate the misconception that DOs are inferior physicians. Believe me, as someone who works in an area that has plenty of DOs, they're just like MDs--there are good and bad ones.

Also, I don't think you should be "naming names" on this board.

EmeraldNYL, BSN, RN · Jul 30, 2006

Why would anyone be against a bill that require a health care provider to be honest with the patient about their education and training. Yes it does make a difference with me, If I am really , really sick I would want to see a
MD, minor stuff I am comfortable with a DO but give me the information so that I can make an informed decision. .

For the record, a D.O. is a physician and is just as competent at providing care to really sick patients as an M.D. D.O.'s and M.D.'s basically receive the same training, 4 years of medical school, but D.O's are also trained in osteopathic manipulative treatment and take a slightly different set of board examinations. Just goes to show that even within the healthcare community there is misinformation and lack of knowledge about other's qualifications/education.

jwk · Jul 30, 2006

Just goes to show that even within the healthcare community there is misinformation and lack of knowledge about other's qualifications/education.

Amen to that.

Gabie Baby · Jul 31, 2006

This is merely another attempt, in a long series of attempts, by doctors to try to rid the world of nurse anesthetists. It's about protecting docs' income.

The title CRNA clearly informs the patient that this is a nurse.

Having worked with plenty of anesthetists and anesthesiologists, I see no difference in their skill or knowledge.

jwk · Jul 31, 2006

This is merely another attempt, in a long series of attempts, by doctors to try to rid the world of nurse anesthetists. It's about protecting docs' income.
The title CRNA clearly informs the patient that this is a nurse.
Having worked with plenty of anesthetists and anesthesiologists, I see no difference in their skill or knowledge.

Clueless on many levels.

deepz · Jul 31, 2006

......It's about protecting docs' income.....

Amen to that. Protecting themselves from CRNAs, PAs, NPs, CNMs, PTs, Podiatrists, Optometrists, and all those other 'non-physician' charlatans.

Transparency Act indeed -- transparent greed. When they claim it's not about the money, you can be sure that it is.

deepz