Direct-entry MSN programs

just moving the other thread to its new home. Here's where we talk about issues unique to Master's-entry programs!

I am attending an MN program...general masters of nursing...it is a direct entry program...there arent too many in the country yet....so far I love it but it is very hard! As master students they really expect quite a bit out of us...we go at such a fast pace that sometimes we dont even get to some chapters of pathophys...so our teacher made videos of herself giving the lecutre and we get to watch them at home:) thats some good tv right there!

just moving the other thread to its new home. Here's where we talk about issues unique to Master's-entry programs!

Thanks elizabells! I like our new home!

-Jess

just moving the other thread to its new home. Here's where we talk about issues unique to Master's-entry programs!

Hi Elizabells,

I finally found it! I was on a totally different forum that Brian started. Thanks!

Smile123

Hi Elizabells,

I finally found it! I was on a totally different forum that Brian started. Thanks!

Smile123

Hey guys! I'll christen this new thread with a question for all you who have started in your programs. What have you been most surprised by? A class you thought you wouldn't like but did, the types of backgrounds of your classmates, the sheer intensity of it all, or something completely different?

-Jess

Hi there,

Like the new place! We are official here, how nice!

Yesterday was the orientation for my program and I am happy to say that I sort of knew 2 people there. One lady I met through allnurses! The other lady I met at the group interview for UIC, (she has her MBA and made it to the UIC waitlist but, chose DePaul).

Interesting so far. The program is two years and 107 credit hours. Phewie. Also, me and my hubby spoke more about me staying at the UCC housing downtown. He is indeed for it and agrees that it will help maintain a healthy marriage versus me here stressing.

It may have helped the argument because yesterday morning I was totally stressing over nonsense! However, I love him dearly and think he also deserves to have peace of mind while I engage in this new program. :)

Gen

Hey guys! I'll christen this new thread with a question for all you who have started in your programs. What have you been most surprised by? A class you thought you wouldn't like but did, the types of backgrounds of your classmates, the sheer intensity of it all, or something completely different?

-Jess

I didn't think I'd be so tired - it's a lot of hours, but no more than I worked at my last job. I'm justsoooooooo tired. I'm actually going to the health center tomorrow to get checked for mono.

I didn't think I'd be so tired - it's a lot of hours, but no more than I worked at my last job. I'm justsoooooooo tired. I'm actually going to the health center tomorrow to get checked for mono.

I agree! I used to work 50 hours a week and took night classes 3 to 4 nights a week, but the intensity of the accel'd program is not for the faint hearted. I find myself staying up until 1am to 2am to finish assignments and then getting up at 6:30am or 7am to start the next day of classes. I'm definitely burning the candle at both ends and I feel tired all the time. I get 30 minutes here and there when I cannot keep my eyes open or remember what I just read. I do take my vitamins everyday, so that helps.

Smile123

I didn't think I'd be so tired - it's a lot of hours, but no more than I worked at my last job. I'm justsoooooooo tired. I'm actually going to the health center tomorrow to get checked for mono.

Good luck with everything Elizabells,

Also, don't forget that you need to nourish yourself as if you were an athlete! Seriously, your brain is burning glycogen like mad while you read and study and learn so much!

Seriously though, hope you feel better and rested soon!!

Gen

p.s. aha, now a reason to eat more. :)

Also, don't forget that you need to nourish yourself as if you were an athlete! Seriously, your brain is burning glycogen like mad while you read and study and learn so much!

You know, Gen, I completely hadn't thought of that! I'll talk to the doc about it in a few minutes when I go in. Thanks!

Hello,

Has anyone already posted where to find the masters entry nclex-rn pass rates? I am wondering because my program has been in existence since 2001 and this means they would have the pass rates for the classes graduating 2003, 2004 and I wonder what they are. It is the weekend so, I cannot just call up with this question.

I remember this was discussed in a thread and that the masters entry students where doing pretty well.

My program is 107 credit hours, I wonder how it compares, (this is just the MSN, not the certificate of NP, that is extra).

Also, can we compare costs too? DePaul's credit hours 107 will cost about 42,500.

I am glad as all get out to be in, now I am only working out logistics of financing. :) OH, then to live in the UCC center, (which I am filling out the application asap) will cost another 11,390 a year. So, my total for tuition and room will be $65280. This is for the MSN, in order to get the np certificate I will continue, (I think another year~20,000) so the total would come out to about $85,000. Gosh, I guess this may not leave too much total grad school funds left, (I think the total is $185,000) for the clinical doctorate. Wait, I guess it will indeed leave some left! I am really glad I wrote this out and did the math. I thought I would have left available than I actually will. :)

Goodie.

Gen

p.s. to Elizabells!! How are you doing? Of course, you do not have to reveal the details from your doc visit but, I hope all is well. As a long distance runner I have known several of my co-runners who just got run down, (pun) over the long run, (pun) and turned out to harbor a blood infection which took quite some time to get over. I guess they mostly started from a cold lowering their immunity then continually neglecting to rest, eat, drink and recover from activity enough allowed the sepsis-type infection. Hopefully you don't have to deal with this. Hoping you are well!!

Hello,

Has anyone already posted where to find the masters entry nclex-rn pass rates? I am wondering because my program has been in existence since 2001 and this means they would have the pass rates for the classes graduating 2003, 2004 and I wonder what they are. It is the weekend so, I cannot just call up with this question.

Gen

Hi Gen,

I did a quick Google search on NCLEX pass rates and it doesn't break it down specifically by master's entry, but here's some info:

NCLEX pass rates

http://www.higheredinfo.org/dbrowser/index.php?measure=73#

http://www.nursezone.com/student_nurse_center/default.asp?articleID=10975

One school in Illinois

http://kish.cc.il.us/programsofstudy/nur/

Kishwaukee's Nursing Program has one of the highest overall NCLEX-RN (State Board Examination) pass rates in Illinois and in the country. Kishwaukee's overall average is 97% compared with state and national averages of 91%.

State Board Examination Pass Rates

2002 Kishwaukee (NCLEX-RN):96%

2002 State (NCLEX-RN):88% (for Illinois)

2002 National (NCLEX-RN):87%

The Nursing Program has an excellent curriculum and a stable and theoretically diverse nursing faculty. Kishwaukee Nursing graduates are highly regarded throughout the region.

California Board of Nursing publishes NCLEX rates by school

http://www.rn.ca.gov/schools/passrates.htm (They look organized!)

Johns Hopkins report:

http://www.jhu.edu/news_info/reports/self-study/part3/chap03.html

NCLEX First Time Pass Rate for Johns Hopkins (Through July 2003)

April - March Number Tested Number Passing Percent Passing

1998-1999 148 139 93.9%

1999-2000 171 153 89.5%

2000-2001 164 155 94.5%

2001-2002 161 161 93.8%

*2002-2003 231 225 97.4%

* Indicated first time testers between July 1, 2002 and June 30, 2003

Finally, here's an old thread about DePaul: perhaps if you reply back to revive those people can give you more info:

https://allnurses.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-59327.html

Good luck!

Smile123

Hello,

My program is 107 credit hours, I wonder how it compares, (this is just the MSN, not the certificate of NP, that is extra).

Also, can we compare costs too? DePaul's credit hours 107 will cost about 42,500.

I am glad as all get out to be in, now I am only working out logistics of financing. :) OH, then to live in the UCC center, (which I am filling out the application asap) will cost another 11,390 a year. So, my total for tuition and room will be $65280. This is for the MSN, in order to get the np certificate I will continue, (I think another year~20,000) so the total would come out to about $85,000. Gosh, I guess this may not leave too much total grad school funds left, (I think the total is $185,000) for the clinical doctorate. Wait, I guess it will indeed leave some left! I am really glad I wrote this out and did the math. I thought I would have left available than I actually will. :)

Goodie.

Gen

Hi Gen,

To answer your questions about the credits:

Hopkins:

1st 13 months for BSN: 55 semester credits

2nd and 3rd year for MSN: 42 to 53 semester credits depending on which speciality you are doing (PNP, ANP and Acute care are 42 credits, FNP is 53)

Total credit hours for BSN/MSN: 97 to 108 credits (depending on the program)

Estimated Tuition:

1st year (13 months) $44,595 ($991 per credit)

2nd and 3rd year: $41622 to $52523 (depending on which program focus)

Total: $86217 to $97118 (for 3 years)

So yes, it does cost a pretty penny to go into these programs! But realize, many people work part time or full time during the master's portion and the hospital will pay for a portion of their tuition. For example, if you work full time at Hopkins hospital, they will pay 100% of your tuition for that semester (of course, you can only take classes part time, so this is really 2 classes a semester instead of 4 or 5).

It's just the 1st year that is so intense that they say you cannot really work (I agree being in the program right now!)

So people take out lots of loans either subsidized or subsidized (fill out that Fafsa!), govt direct or private loans through banks (make sure you still show you are working!) :wink2:

Welcome to the club! :-D

Smile123