Spring Arbor FNP program

I will be starting in February as well! I was unable to find the FB group mentioned above.

I'm not sure why you aren't able to find the group. Others have.

I will be starting in February as well! I was unable to find the FB group mentioned above.

Copy and paste it into the Facebook search bar and then click groups.

Found it right away when I went on my computer instead of my phone, go figure!

I have Jeanne Weible also!

Spring Arbor University

I have been at Spring Arbor since November 2016 MSN/FNP. The classes and the instructors have all been pretty good. The residency was fabulous and I learned so much from the live models, the head to toe assessment at least the person that did my sign off was a joke. They made it sound like it was going to be so hard and grueling and it was a wasted trip with the exception of the live the models. The communication between the NP Director and the Nursing faculty with the student(s) is the worst I have ever seen. I do not typically reach out to anyone I just get through. However, recently I had to reach out and my questions have yet to be answered. I am literally frustrated. When you start your clinical I hope you do not find yourselves overwhelmed with the lack of organization as so many in my cohort has. We are so close to being done so transferring is not an option but many of them wish they would have chosen a different school. I for one would transfer if my semester was not already paid for and I am still contemplating switching schools. I wish you all the best and I pray that you do not have the same frustrations that so many are having right now.

Best of Luck to anyone attending their NP program

Thanks for this information. So far classes have been good. I hope clinicals for us would be a better experience than you are having. I could not deal with the stress of clinicals and assignments. So fingers cross.

Just graduated, would not recommend the program. This is based on my personal experience only. This began at residency, one year into the program, when I was told I could not do clinical hours in my state, due to not having clinical instructors licensed by my home state. This has happened in four other states as well, that I am aware of.

There have been many, many issues in the previous 6-8 months for my cohort and the one before me. Due to clinical audits not being efficiently done during the program, several students were made to complete additional clinical hours at the end, and some had to find new preceptors or wait for openings with their previous preceptors. I was one of those students who was delayed. I took boards and was successful prior to completing clinical hours, only to think I was finished and had to complete more clinical hours after some of mine were zeroed out by the nursing office.

There is open hostility from the nursing office, and clinical instructors are not monitored closely enough in my opinion. Students are able to double up clinical hours, but many are refused as their preceptor paperwork was held up in the nursing office so long, the double request was denied due to not having an "approved" preceptor.

Many students lost preceptors due to the delay of the nursing office, or had to sit out and wait for an opening as the available date passed by without approved paperwork.

Emails to the nursing office often go without a return response, phone calls are not returned either.

As for the passing rate, that is due to each student cramming for the board exams, not due to the content taught in the program. We are expert level APA writers, but the content is not addressed as closely. Personally, I had several instructors who were not NP's or never worked as an NP due to their choice or circumstance.

Thanks for your input. I found many of the same issues as well. Clinical instructors were not interested. Took their time grading, never engaging and was late respond to questions I mean 2 weeks late. Preceptor eval was uploaded late and the MSN office is still a struggle.

Hope you are well and able to practice in your field given the times we are in.

30 minutes ago, HUMORLW said:

Thanks for your input. I found many of the same issues as well. Clinical instructors were not interested. Took their time grading, never engaging and was late respond to questions I mean 2 weeks late. Preceptor eval was uploaded late and the MSN office is still a struggle.

Hope you are well and able to practice in your field given the times we are in.

I am so sorry to hear things have not changed. An SAU staff person reached out to me on LinkedIn a week ago to see how I am doing, and I told him again of the awful experience and he said he would refer the issues to Al Kaufmann. Nothing is apparently ever going to change. It is unfortunate, it is an expensive program to have such ridiculous issues with.

I am successfully working, but not due to anything SAU did. Hope you are able to work as well!

I just completed in July and is now getting ready for boards, figuring out my study plans. I too call the advisor and had a long rant of the issues. As many of the clinical faculty are not serious. I'm still awaiting audit to be completed..was bad before covid19 now I expect it to worst..

Good luck and stay safe

I know most of you are well into the program, but for anyone who is reading this and considering going to Spring Arbor University— please do not go. I know many people in my cohort that have had problems with the university and regret going. You have to find clinical sites yourself, which isn’t rare, but they offer no help to you if you cannot find one. If you cannot find one my the semester start date, you cannot do clinical hours until the next semester (in 6 months) and then they make you stop your online classes that whole time. Some people found preceptors but didn’t have their sites approved from the nursing office in time and were delayed for clinicals. Everything you do for clinical has to be approved, but the nursing office doesn’t answer their emails. When they do, it takes 2 emails and they respond with hostility and tell you that you should already know the answer or they don’t answer all of your questions. Getting something approved through the office takes multiple months— I am not exaggerating. I wrote a longer reply in another allnurses thread, so I won’t explain everything here.. but look for that.

and don’t just believe me. Search allnurses for others that have gone to this school and you will see what I’m talking about