Jon12

OK, it appears that any reply I make does not go under the comment, but at the end of the list. I was asked if HR really stated that it was acceptable workplace behavior for the male nurse to point me out to patients and state that I like to wear women's clothing. Yes, they actually said that. It was when I told them of the other sexual comments that any action was taken. To be honest, I should have involved a lawyer at that point. Another post was upset about my frequent use of comments like "how silly of me ....", etc. One of the problems with social media is you can't hear the voice or see any body movements to pick up on sarcasm. I am sorry that you were offended because of this. I have never seen a good way to get sarcasm across and I thought that by going much farther than needed it would become apparent. That didn't work. It was also a way to point out that management was condoning her behavior by their refusal to address it. My manager stated that she had done all she could by sending my write ups to HR. By the way, this occurred at a Magnet hospital with a proclaimed "No Tolerance Policy". A really distressing thing about the situation is the response of my fellow nurses. Even the ones that I got along with (Yes, I know some of you will not believe that I do get along with other nurses, but it is true and no that was not sarcasm), would just look away and never say a word (The physicians did the same). However, when the screamer was not present, one nurse stated "you know she is crazy" and another stated that I "just had to let it go." I tried, but after six months of her activities, I just couldn't take it anymore. Another point, the nurses that I got along with have never returned any of my phone calls or emails since I quit. Why? To anyone offended by my mentioning a being accused of diagnosing patients with uncompleted lab work. I brought this up as I have seen and read about instances where a nurse that complained of poor treatment was then accused of negligent or illegal behavior. That appears to be the norm for nursing management and not the exception in my opinion. Some recommended that I leave nursing. OK, so is it better for an abused nurse to leave than to punish the abusers? That comment is one of the problems and speaks to why there is a nursing shortage in my opinion. I was taught that the nursing shortage is due to a lack of instructors, shortage of students, or a lack of programs. I cannot say none of those problems exist. However, I think a large part of it deals with nurses leaving due to the abuse common in this profession (Bandura's Social Learning Theory at work). I bet every one of us reading this has heard or uttered the phrase "Nurses eat their own" or "... their young". I have never heard such a phrase in any other profession. One nurse instructor told me that nurse bullying is not a problem because it happens with physicians as well. I disagree. We should set an example, not look for excuses to why we accept poor behavior. I once looked up nurse bullying on YouTube and was surprised at the number of postings. On a side note, I did apply to a local manufacturer that I was told was desperate for anybody that could pass a drug test. I did not get an interview even when I did lie on the application about why I left those previous two jobs. Another felt that mentioning my Mother was made for pity. No. I mentioned it to show how dire my situation is becoming. I have no insurance, my medications cost over $200.00 a month. My school loan payments are now due and I can see not being able to meet my expenses by the end of the year if I do not find a job. Have I ever been rude to another nurse, yes. Have other nurses been rude to me that were not mentioned in my article, yes. Do I feel that is unacceptable? I say yes, but realize that will happen from time to time in this or any other profession or even in our day to day interactions with family and friends. However, screaming and questions about a person's sexual activities or propositioning another worker is never acceptable. That applies to everyone. Would counseling help, I think so when I can afford it. Another help would be when I talk about these occurrences with other nurses/instructors (by the way I gave up doing that until this post came out) if instead of saying "why do you keep bringing that up" that they would say, "you know I agree that wasn't right", or "I understand that you are upset about this and I can see why". We can use therapeutic communication on other nurses as well as patients.

OK, so one of my "problems" is my honesty. If you ask why I quit a job (I was never fired), I will tell you the truth. Even my sister recently told me that I need to lie on my applications. I can understand that, but I think it is sad that a person is ostracized by telling the truth. Maybe that is why lateral violence is so prevalent in nursing. We don't want to talk about it and if someone does they are accused of having a pity fest for themselves. One poster stated that that nurse also yelled at other people, not true, I was the only person she screamed at. Was she rude to other nurses, yes, did she scream at them, no. As far as I was having a pity fest, I disagree. I received my umpteenth job turn down yesterday and just had it for the day.

Hello MSNP. I graduated with my MSN May 2017. I obtained my board certification in July and my state CNP license in July. I have been unable to find employment and started applying for an ED RN position since I have over six years of ED experience. I received the turn down letter yesterday. I would suggest, if possible, that you get your BSN, start working for a good health system that employs NPs in an area that you are interested in. Continue working in that system part time or PRN while your are going to school. Then when you obtain certification apply for the NP job at that health system. Good luck and I hope you have a better time of it than I have.

Hello, I want to apologize to the entire nursing profession and educators for being rude and unprofessional for the following reasons; I am sorry that I feel that being sexually propositioned by another nurse was wrong. When he finally accepted that nothing was going to happen, his actions of pointing me out to patients, telling them my name, and stating that I like to wear women's clothing at home were entirely acceptable! How could I think otherwise? I was even told that his actions were appropriate work place behavior by human resources. How could I ever think that was wrong? At the same work place I went to a physician to request a medication. The physician immediately asked me if I was gay, and repeated the question when I did not reply. Again, how dare I think that was unprofessional! The almost identical scenario occurred another time when I was giving a report for a patient going to the cath lab. The nurse taking the report kept interrupting me asking if I was gay. I guess I am just an idiot for thinking that these behaviors were unacceptable. I went to another place of employment. At this place I worked with a nurse that would scream (and I don't mean a whisper, but a scream) at the awful things I was doing. I didn't know I should not knock on the patient's door before going in! When I did She started screaming that "the patient will turn on the light when she was ready". I am really confused then why the patient asked what took so long after waiting for 20 minutes before knocking on the door again (no other nurse would approach that patient's door). What was I thinking! I don't know what possessed me another time. There was a file in the orders-to-be-done slot. There was a time noted on the first order, but no initials. The second order had scribbles that may have been initials, but no time. The third order had the first two digits written in the time spot that were the same as the first order. I checked with the patient who did not remember being medicated and did noit have an IV. When I could not locate another nurse, I finally asked the psycho nurse about the patient. This resulted in a 20 minute screaming episode where I was told that I owe her an apology for even asking her about it. Wow, I did not know how awful my actions were until that time! Another time that nurse came up behind me, grabbed the file I was writing my notes in, then threw it back down stating that was not the file she was looking for. I totally get it now! I am just a rude person, how dare I do things like that! The company policy was to have a nurse out in triage throughout the day and night. No one was going out at night so I started going out every time I worked (this also served to get away from that very professional nurse that was always showing me the errors of my ways). So now the other nurses get mad at me because suddenly there was a nurse that wanted to sit in triage. Anybody want to guess who that was? The rest of the staff stated that I could not go out to triage anymore (this is where you look up the term mobbing in the nursing literature). After about two weeks who was out in triage, no one. I stated watching the monitor of the waiting room so I would know if a patient walked in. That got me called a "pervert". Wow, the things I have been learning about myself. I apologize for writing the crazy nurse up. When I finally had my meeting with HR, I was informed that I had to "come up with what I did to cause the problem" or there is nothing that could be done. How silly of me to think that those behaviors were unprofessional. I think if I ever work again in nursing, that I will do those same actions because they are so accepted in the nursing profession. At the same meeting with HR I was accused of diagnosing a patient by their blood work. Yes, I admit it! The fact that the blood work had not been drawn has nothing to do with my willingness to diagnose people with it. I guess the next time a patient asks what does hemoglobin tell us in blood work I should just say that is none of your business instead of stating it tells us if you are anemic. I now understand that physicians love to answer every question that a patient has and if I ever work as a nurse again I will go to them with each and every patient's questions! At the same place, I now understand that notifying the manager of an upcoming required re certification class two months before it was scheduled was just plain silly of me. When that months schedule came out and I was scheduled to work the day of the class I went to the manager and informed her of the issue. She asked when I had notified her. When I said two months ago she stated that I notified her "too early" and that it should have been only a one month notification. She then stated she would take care of the problem. One week later I notified her again because I hadn't heard anything more. I then found out that she had left on vacation for two weeks. How could I ever think that a two month notification was acceptable? How could I think that when my manager stated she will take care of the problem that she wouldn't? I am sorry for my ignorance! I totally deserved working that 12 hour night shift and then going to an eight hour class! I quit and after about a year and a half I applied to another hospital system. During the interview I related some of the professional behaviors I had been subjected to as a reason for leaving my former employers. That got me labeled as "stressed" by the HR. Listen HR people, if your are going to say something like that at least have the courtesy to do it where the person cannot hear you. Then during the next part of the interview I was informed "I don't think you have the intelligence to past our tests". Really? I remember telling my Christian college's dean about these issues to be met with "why do you keep bringing that up". Oh, I don't know, why do women keep bring up the subject of sexual harassment? Maybe because all harassment is wrong? This even applies to so-called Christian and other nursing colleges! Now I quit working to get away from the abuse. I quit the Master's program and then was kicked out of the college when I tried to reinstate. I was told that I had violated the school code (Yes, because I was sexually harassed by a married man makes me the homosexual, how could I think differently?). I don't understand why if I had violated the student code why this was not noted in my formal dismissal letter? I now understand that bringing up lateral nursing violence and sexual harassment is wrong. It is even worse to complain about it! I have been without work for over three years now. If not for my Mom's health problems that I am taking care of, I would be homeless. I have been turned down for every job I have applied for (over 20 of them now) during these past few years. All I hear is how we need nurses. I apply for an RN position and I am turned down. MSN jobs just turn me down (because of my age, lack of recent employment? who knows) I am sorry that I quit my previous jobs. I should have just accepted the abuse as normal professional nursing behavior, again my apologies for thinking that nursing is professional. It really is more of a wild west show where the victim is the cause of the problems. Unemployed and will probably never work again in the nursing profession, Jon