Tim1957

I am fifty-two years old and I am currently in my second semester of my local ADN program. Before pursuing this, I never even once worked in the medical field. No, you are never too old.

I am one of those middle-aged students who just applied for the Nursing Program at my local college. I was very careful to pick a college that based their selection process on merit. However, the local college I attend was forced by the Chancellor of...

No you do not know that for a fact. There is a very large list of top level students just waiting to get in. And some of them are very close friends. Did you happen to miss the posting of the Bee article? This issue is not going away. You mention ove...

this made front page local in the sunday edition of our local paper today. the modesto junior college nursing school students decry planned lottery by michelle hatfield bee staff writer last updated: january 21, 2007, 10:24:40 am pst evergreen valley...

You Know Focker, I have stayed away from this topic for weeks now. However because of your logic expressed in the last posting I am going to make an exception. The C average students drop like flies the first semester. Why? Because they either lack t...

Now with this comment, you told us everything about your beliefs that we need to know. The posters in this thread were discussing a very real problem and then you chose to bring in this Aztlan argument. You just lost all respect in my eyes.

LIZZ Thank You, You make a lot of sense. Tim

Thanks for the info in re LA college. And the rest of you are right. The milk is spillt, it is spoiled, it is time to move on. I will let someone else clean up the mess. I am done talking about this.

OH and Focker I took the time to read your other postings. One of the basic qualities that a nurse should have are sense of compassion and tact. You were a little more tactful in your posting to me, but I think you still have room for improvement. ...

I had to read your post over and I am glad I did. The timeframe you talk about them changing the selection process is just about right. I have been there for a little over three years and it was sometime in my second semester that it changed. Please ...

it seems i am not the only one in modesto that is unhappy with this selection process. following is a letter to the editor of our local paper. i believe i know this girl. she is very capable and would be asset to any nursing staff. last updated: dec...

Well i have to disagree with you. The chancellor;s model is only grade based as far as the cut score, at least that's how it is being presented at MJC.Some People with a score of 75 got in this semester. They had only applied in the fall for their fi...

You know Lizz, you are 100% right. It really is a matter of principle. And our grades should count for something. I need to re-think my thought process from time to time. LIZZ I am curious to hear your views on the question I asked Zash. How do you f...

I am not sure of this, but is Loma Linda a teaching Hospital? If it is, this might be another option.

Zash I am curious. Some of those who are just passing concern me. That is more than some are In my humble opinion could be a danger to the pt's. Now I also realize that some who have achieved a high level of academic excellance can also be a danger...

I am proud person Lizz. And in a very real sense I am from the old school. An insructor of mine said to many of us one time "I do not grade on a curve, because in real life your are in competition with your peers". I believe that this is the way it ...

In a very real sense then, you prove my point that it is not a true lottery at all. You mentioned federal law requiring a certain mix based on ethnic identification and then you mention that Lizz might be on to something. So let's sum up. We have for...

Lizz, It sounds like you do not trust the integrity of the lottery system. A professional corp. in our area is also concerned about the integrity of the system. They want to see a selection process that is open to the eyes of the public. They petitio...

Lizz Does Your school have a lottery? Because in a true lottery, standing out does not matter.

Thanks Ken, One of the things that I must have is coverage for my friend who is an epileptic. As a consequence, I need to be in a place that I can recieve support from family members. But if it was myself, I would love to attend school in such a be...

Excellent post. You bring up many good points. One of the arguments that was used to justify this process at our local college is that they felt that a more pratical nurse was a better nurse, hence this leads toward the need felt by some to classify ...

ahh, the wonderful world of outsourcing!

Nice spin job there in that piece. I will just offer my opinion. Any system of selection that removes the right of self-determination away from the student and towards a system that uses a selection process based on a lottery for the purpose of socia...

Seductive? Maybe. However, I remember how down I was just a few days ago when I started this topic. And all of you have helped me to renew my strength. So yes, I believe it is seductive but also it helps to talk to others that share the same dream. I...

I think it is out of frustration. I really do not think it is out of a dislike. If those who have the power would invest into our own infrastructure, then we would not be having discussions about it. As for myself, I just want to see a better environ...