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Better to go ask a different thread or perhaps start your own, they don't like posts that aren't related to the topic...

It looks as if you did not pass according to the PVT trick but the only DEFINITE way is to get your quick results... Keep us updated!!

It surely did!!!

I just want to be clear because I understand where you are coming from, but if you read my original post I specifically say not to bring anyone down and do feel that nurses who have passed the nclex should be encouraging to future perspective nurses. It was a strict opinionated thread about the states current policies regarding retaking and opinions about them. I am pro patient care by providing efficient, accurate, and sometimes life saving measures to each and everyone of them. And if the NCLEX tests minimum competency then why do we have people who have to take the boards over SIX times. The opion part was based off of how do we obtain a better passing rate with minimum attempts that would allow for minimum competency?

I know what it's like to fail and your heart drops and the room seems to get bigger all around you as you feel smaller... The best thing to do is remember how you passed nursing school and study harder for the next time... You know what the test is like now and how to prepare... Don't give up!!

Must say that The U.S. Should adapt this policy if it wasn't for making money they probably would...

I couldn't agree with you more!!!

The term going in blind meaning you don't know what the comprehensive test is going to be. Is going to be like the questions you practiced, are there going to be a lot of SATA questions, are you going to get slammed with pharm questions, I mean it in that sense... And I went to a school that is ranked as the top 25th nursing school in the country and the NCLEX questions I got on my test were nothing like the questions I practiced... The only way to not go in to the NCLEX blind is if your a cheater and have all of the thousands of questions the NCLEX has to offer memoriZed... I can almost guarantee that if I was to chose ten difficult questions at random with terms that are barely heard of more than 85% would only get 50% right. The way the NCLEX is set up is two people could both get a 50% and one pass and one fail which is called computer adaptive testing... You get the first two questions right then right wrong the remainder you will pass but get the two first questions wrong and follow the same pattern you will fail. Not to mention no two tests are alike some people get an entirely easy test and get lucky because they know the content to every question where others aren't as fortunate... I agree with PP that a 75 questions test (well honestly 60 questions bc 15 questions don't count) isn't enough to test competency in every area of nursing...

I do believe the NCLEX carries a bit more risk than nursing school tests. This is the test that makes nursing school worth all of the tests you took, this is the test that will allow you to practice as a nurse (pending approval from your state), this is a comprehensive test that will include questions from any of the areas of previous study during nursing school... Point is there is going to be more test anxiety with the NCLEX I feel compared to a test you took in school... I do agree with PP's about two attempts after that remediation and after third go back to school but hard to say because I'm not in their shoes...

Yeah the scary part is we will never know those who took 6 tries to pass. The only way to really see incompetent nursing is stories about lawsuits or those Nurses you work with that should touch a stethoscope... I can see the argument after the third time something has to give which is why some states make you take a refresher course after the third failed attempt but do feel something is seriously wrong with them passing nursing school in the first place...

I agree

Hey I agree you should wait for quick results of your state allows it. But if you write a post about the PVT there's going to be a million and one different opinions about the subject and how it worked or didn't work for that very individual. Like I said I was only giving my personal experience and stated what I went through with the PVT and meant no harm by it only that it worked for me both times I took the NCLEX. I also never used a card that had enough on it to get charged for the $200 but never had a negative experience which I'm guessing is just luck.

Yeah usually that's the case I know from my experience after failing the first time. Best of Luck though.

I almost feel like that would be impossible to do. But that scares me the possibility of a fraud nurse with no education.

I understand my apologies. I was replying as I reading. But i also did not see an update from the original poster after I read everything. And was only giving my personal opinion on the matter and did not mean any poor etiquette by doing so.

I can agree in some perspective. I also believe that you should be given two initial attempts to pass because the first attempt your going in blind and don't know what to expect, the second time you know what to expect and can adjust your studies accordingly to help you have a fair shot at passing. After the second attempt I to also believe a remediation/ refresher course should be required but if a person fails the third attempt I believe they should still have the chance and opportunity to take the test. They should just have to do refresher courses after each failed attempt. But then again if we put ourselves in their shoes after spending 1000's of dollars on nursing school it would be very frustrating.

I did the PVT less than 30 minutes after the exam but got the good popup. You have to change the expiration date on your card to do the trick so you won't be charged if anything. People are going to tell you that the trick doesn't work but I can personally tell you that it was accurate for me. The first time I took the NCLEX it declined my CC and ended up failing which meant that Pearson tried to charge my card and I ended up failing. My second attempt I did the trick again switched the expiration date but got the good popup "Our records indicate..." Best bet is to wait for the quick results for the accurate results but you won't get that money refunded if you did indeed pass but best of luck and keep us updated.

So I wanted to write a post about those perspective nurses that can not seem to pass the NCLEX after multiple tries and multiple refresher courses. I recently made a post about the PVT trick and after 70 comments and turned to a weird topic of conversation about not wanting nurses to become nurses if they can't pass the NCLEX the FIRST time, which I believe is complete ********. Me personally I have worked with a bunch of nurses who have passed the first time and failed once and failed multiple times. I know nurses that passed the first time with 75 questions and shouldn't be allowed to empty a foley bag or take a blood pressure and I know nurses that passed it after the sixth attempt who I would allow to be a first assist in a cardiac surgery (just a metaphor). Bottom line is the NCLEX is just a test that measures competency at the time of the exam and does not predict whether a nurse will be good at their job or horrible. What is everyone's personal opinion on the unlimited amount of tries at the NCLEX. Do you agree with the refresher course requirement after the third attempt or do you feel it should be done after each attempt. I personally passed the NCLEX on my second attempt so I believe that the NCLEX doesn't represent a good or poor nurse and I also believe that a good nurse would encourage those who have difficulty passing the NCLEX and give them advice that helped them through it. Please don't put people down in the post that is not my objective but you are entitled to your own opinion so be honest at the same time.

The best thing about nursing is the amount of different areas to choose. Look into forensic nursing it may challenge your knowledge and give you what your looking for.

I understand where you are coming from but the NCLEX shouldn't make a determination or a good or bad nurse. I went through nursing school with all A's and B's and graduated with honors. I am also a firefighter and an EMT and had to take state exams for both of those certification and licenses but passed the first time for both. I took the NCLEX The first time and failed mainly because of me being over confident and underprepared. My experience also screwed me because I didn't look at the questions as being in the "NCLEX World." It isn't an easy test and can easily see why people fail it multiple times. That shouldn't determine that persons inability to become a great nurse. Great nurses are the ones who have compassion after a long decade of having patients throw up and s*** all over you but always come in with a smile on their faces to do it the next day. The NCLEX doesn't measure compassion and just measures a certain level of competency at the time you take the test, it doesn't measure experience or what you will actually learn in the field, as well as those nursing shortcuts that we all take that would be the wrong answer on the NCLEX. And trust me thre are a lot of incompetent nurses who have passed the NCLEX the first time with 75 questions who I would never let them treat my already dead Grandmom. Just try and encourage your fellow future nurses who are already beating themselves up over the hundreds of dollars they have to spend to retake the exam each time let alone failing the exam multiple times. Remember where you came from. To answer your question about the pilot failing his flight test, have you ever personally asked the pilot flying your plane if that was the case. I know I haven't. Same as when your about to die in the hospital you won't ask each nurse who is trying to save your life "did you pass the NCLEX the first time because if you didn't I believe you to be incompetent of any life saving measures that I shall require," just really think about what you said. I do agree with you though but only time will weave out the actual incompetent nurses not a test like the NCLEX.

You can do it, I did it somehow on my second attempt. PVT worked for me but its best to wait for the Quick Results due to the sometimes inaccuracy of the trick. But it did work both times for me and believe me I was extremely happy when I got the good Pop up but was also anxious about it actually meaning that I passed. I wrote another post about my preparation for the second attempt so you should check it out. Any tips help that's what helped me through.

Whatever you do, don't study when you are tired because it will go in one ear and out the other. The good thing is your working a healthcare job so that will help with medsurg. The best thing to do is to get to know your patients and observe to see if any of them are going through the same interventions you are currently learning (I.e. Chest tubes, heparin therapy, TPN or Enteral nutrition, etc.) this will provide you with visual learning as well as what you are reading causing you to use multiple parts of your brain to retain information. Always eat before you study and take a break about every 20 minutes to stretch get up and get you thoughts together about what you just studied. Try to relate the material, use acronyms, or whatever will help you retain information. My first semester I had pharm, maternity, research, health assessment, and nursing fundamentals which totaled 17 credit hours while working two jobs and managing a family so if I could get through the storm you can, just know that everything is being done for a reason and there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

I would check with your state about financial aid to also your school with scholarships. I managed to go through my entire BSN and associates for pre nursing with only paying $300 for one class which was my first class ever English Comp I. Also nursing school is a challenge and so is the NCLEX and rushing through it may come back to haunt you unless you have a brilliant mind then go for it. I would also look into going right for your BSN because a lot of hospitals won't hire ADN's because of MAGNET status which requires them to have a certain amount of BSN's and to acquire this they usually hire BSN's before ADN's. But anything is possible and follow your dream don't give up, and know that there is always a light at the end of the tunnel.

Yeah that's how it seems it should be.

So I took your advice and waited a week to call and they gave me the run around but out of nowhere got my license randomly posted on the NJ DOCA website 9 days after passing the NCLEX. So all is good.