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I never said they should not take the courses, I said I did not know they offered it to LPNs. And.. I have plenty of company in my 'Ivory tower'.. Thanks for your concern.

I used to live on Galveston Island. I sure hope no one decided to stick around and have a 'hurricane party'. My heart goes out to all trying to escape Ike's path. I know how congested the highways and Interstates can be around Houston on normal days. Those that are in the path of this storm, please let us all know you are safe.

For telemetry, if you do not need knowledge about the drugs, then a disrhythmia course should suffice. Do not try to turn the tables on me, sir. I am not insulting you, and your insulting me is unprofessional. I just asked some questions, and there is no reason to attack me personally. In your post, you mentioned Texas and Florida.. I am sorry I placed you in the wrong state. Initially, the scope of practice for LPN/LVN was the same in all states except 2, and then more states followed implementing their own variations. I did some homework before asking my questions. I may take up traveling again, and Phoenix is where I will go, since I have connections there already in place. Now, I am sure some LPNs do know how to do what an RN can do from observation, and maybe there are a few LPNs who can run circles around some RNs.. and vice versa. But, if they are wanting to practice nursing outside their scope of practice in whatever state they are in, they need to go back to school and pass the same boards I had to pass. After all, it is MY license, which makes it MY decision.

Yes.. I wondered in here again from google. I had not actively been in this forum for a while. No, I do not claim to know anything about these people.. as they know nothing about me. You are right, there is no reason to banter this issue. I spoke out of anger, and that is always wrong.. no excuses. I am sorry.

You are the one calling yourself a 'moocher'.. I am just stating the fact that NONE of us are self-sufficient.. I did put 'your' before hypocrisy.. sorry.. as I said, I have no idea if you even work in a health related occupation.. or you may even be CRNA2007's alter-ego.. People are known to pick up many identities in the forums in attempts to support a losing cause. In reality, I do not care as much about yours or CRNA's thoughts, as much as I feel you both are poor examples of what nursing represents for the nursing students in these forums.

Yeah..hehe the list goes on and on.. My mother used to always asy 'Only 2 sure things in life.. death and taxes'. UHC is for everyone! If you want additional coverage, I am sure you can still purchase it. I, in all honesty, cannot fee good about myself, knowing somebody else out there is suffering. Put yourself in a parent of a small child's place.. being told that they may be able to save your child, but since your insurance company is saying they won't cover certain proceedures, they will need the money up front to keep your child alive. Your husband is in Iraq, fighting for our freedom. Both yours and his parents are no longer living. There is no one to turn to.. you just bought your first house and cannot take out a 2nd mortgage.. You have missed work the last 3 weeks to stay with your sick child, so they let you go from your job. Feel the helplessness of that poor mother who has to sit there and watch her child die. This story today is repeated over and over.. the characters may change.. but THIS is what UHC will be in place to prevent.. and I would much rather my money be put use in this way, than to pay for Josie's charitable contributions. :heartbeat

Another thing I pay for.. your tax deductions from contributing to charitable causes.. What if I do not like your contributions.

Ohh.. Jolie.. I am very self-sufficient at this point in my life.. I do not get any tax credits for children or loans. Those of you that claim children on your returns, I could say, are mooching off me.. Those of you taking deductions for interest on home or school loans, I could say are 'mooching', as well. I could easily argue the point about self-sufficiency.. but the people.. especially nurses.. who cannot hold out a helping hand to those in need, need to quit practicing in a field of helping others. Quit your hypocrisy!

Hi Magda, The difference is there are many states here in the US that have their own statutes for scopes of practice. The pay is not the same, but neither are the content of knowledge, years of schooling, responsibilities, or the testing for licensure the same. We have CNAs, CMAs, LPNs, and RNs.. and each have certain people who are licensed as one, yet appear to have classification envy and attempt to practice outside their scope of practice... or make up titles I had not heard of before, such as ICU LVN. I restarted this thread, out of curiosity after hearing a title I never had heard before, and have since determined my initial insticts were correct about someone who said they were ICU LVN in California.. this person is a person with 'classification envy', since she is retired. But most of all, I am curious as to what the different states allow the LPN to do in their scope of practice on their own license. I am not stating that either is smarter than the other, but RNs have more training than LVNs because they went the extra mile to acquire the extra knowledge. If LVNs want to practice as an RN, they need to go back to school and pass the licensure test. It has nothing to do with intelligence, and all to do with motivation. I will say this in all honesty, I refuse to be responsible for an LVN practicing under my license. If they want to be an RN, instead of exerting energy into complaining, they need to channel their energy into going back to school to do it! It is not any RN's fault that they are not allowed to practice outside your scope of paractice.. only they can make the change by persuing a degree.

It's too late for this, but I am going to try to remain on this thread as long as possible for notifications post Ike. Thank you.

Why are you defending him? He is the one insulting and attacking anyone who is not living up to his standards and/or if anyone believes in something other than what he believes. Also, CRNA2007, all I see in your profile is education and other. What ARE you? To say the least, I feel very sorry for him.. He appears angry. He appears to be hurt and is taking it out on others in this forum.. Having troubles at work or in his personal life, venting his frustrations. He needs to appropriately vent where his frustration is coming from. And.. if it is just plain haughtiness.. remember 'Pride cometh before the fall'. May it not be you who we see as the next victim of the insurance company.:heartbeat

What state do you live in? I think it is great as long as you are comfortable and able to do this on your own licence under your state's LPN/LVN legal scope of practice. As far as blood is concerned, we have to have 2 signatures checking the blood out of Blood Bank, and 2 signatures before spiking the bag. You sound very capable.. Are you going to go back to school to get your RN?

ACLS and PALS has nothing to do with being an LPN, but is a requirement in most hospitals in the ICU. I did not realize, as an LPN, that you would be able to be ACLS or PALS certified, sincing pushing vasoactive meds are usually within the LPN/LVN scope of practice. So.. I want to be sure I understand this.. It is permisable for you to practice in the ICU in your state - Texas - under the LPN/LVN scope of practice without an RN needing to sign off? Believe me, I am not trying to 'widen the gap', but I do believe in practicing within our own legal scope of practice. I have also seen LPN's that are envious of the RN role and try to practice outside their legal scope of practice.. and that DOES bother me, especially when it is my patient and they are placing my patient and licence in jeopardy. I know you are going to be an RN soon, but I am asking strictly about the legal ramifications.. and if there is any title as ICU LPN. Also, in certain states, sterile dressing changes 'legally' are changed by RNs.. so if it is a laughable matter to you as an LPN, it is not laughable to me when I have a lawsuit placed against my licence for something someone else did.

Definitely.. renew your RN license! Take some time off, if necessary. I know I was really burnt out after over 10 years of floating around to the various ICUs in a big hospital, and have taken the opportunity to 'get away and re-fresh'. The thing that kept me there was my love for my fellow co-workers, and some of my best friends are still there, though I hardly see them anymore. There are SO many fields in nursing, and you are not limited to only one field. Take time off and explore, but DEFINITELY renew your license!