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everyone doesn't have a personality disorder. there are a number of criteria that need to be met to get this diagnosis. overeating does not qualify on its own. neither does dsh, although it is a strong indicator, particularly when it is habitual. the issue is not that pds are likely to kill patients. the issue is that to meet the criteria of pd an individual has to have an inability to cope with life and patterns of extreme behaviour. a nurse, particularly in mental health has to have a number of attributes to their personality in order to be able to function safely and effectively. the existence of a pd indicates that one or more of these attributes are not present.

everyone doesn't have a personality disorder. there are a number of criteria that need to be met to get this diagnosis. overeating does not qualify on its own. neither does dsh, although it is a strong indicator, particularly when it is habitual. the issue is not that pds are likely to kill patients. the issue is that to meet the criteria of pd an individual has to have an inability to cope with life and patterns of extreme behaviour. a nurse, particularly in mental health has to have a number of attributes to their personality in order to be able to function safely and effectively. the existence of a pd indicates that one or more of these attributes are not present.

What is an OP?

What is an OP?

How exactly does saying that PDs (not people who have suffered from mental illness) should not work as nurses deter people with mental illness from seeking help? You appear to be unable to distuinguish between someone having a flawed personality and someone who is ill.

How exactly does saying that PDs (not people who have suffered from mental illness) should not work as nurses deter people with mental illness from seeking help? You appear to be unable to distuinguish between someone having a flawed personality and someone who is ill.

If you check back through the thread you will see that I did give practical advice on the situation. However, the particular post that I was replying to had broadened the scope of the discussion and implied that it was OK for PDs to be nurses, which I think is a very dangerous and naieve notion.

If you check back through the thread you will see that I did give practical advice on the situation. However, the particular post that I was replying to had broadened the scope of the discussion and implied that it was OK for PDs to be nurses, which I think is a very dangerous and naieve notion.

I would say without hesitation that suffering from a PD does very much make someone unsuitable to work as a nurse.

I would say without hesitation that suffering from a PD does very much make someone unsuitable to work as a nurse.

"crazy" does exist it is a lay colloquialism that covers psychosis and mania. Self harming on the other hand isn't necessarily an illness and is more often and indication of personality disorder, it appears that it is you who is guilty of jumping to conclusions. There have been a number of cases in the UK (e.g. Beverly Allit) were nurses have murdered or harmed patients for their own gratification. Reports on these incidents have consistently shown that signs of severe PD were ignored. If it has been six years since previous episodes then it is quite likely that it was just a short term crisis, but those facts can be quickly established. Not everyone who cuts has a PD, however, it is not an issue that is to be taken lightly and in the balance between the interests of the patient and the interests of the nurse it is important that these issues are looked into when indicated and a collection of scars from previous self harm does indicate that this is worth further scrutiny. As for disability discrimination, it is perfectly justifiable for an employer not wanting to employ someone who is currently self harming or at significant risk. Patients need nurses who can cope with life and aren't competing with them in not being able to cope.

"crazy" does exist it is a lay colloquialism that covers psychosis and mania. Self harming on the other hand isn't necessarily an illness and is more often and indication of personality disorder, it appears that it is you who is guilty of jumping to conclusions. There have been a number of cases in the UK (e.g. Beverly Allit) were nurses have murdered or harmed patients for their own gratification. Reports on these incidents have consistently shown that signs of severe PD were ignored. If it has been six years since previous episodes then it is quite likely that it was just a short term crisis, but those facts can be quickly established. Not everyone who cuts has a PD, however, it is not an issue that is to be taken lightly and in the balance between the interests of the patient and the interests of the nurse it is important that these issues are looked into when indicated and a collection of scars from previous self harm does indicate that this is worth further scrutiny. As for disability discrimination, it is perfectly justifiable for an employer not wanting to employ someone who is currently self harming or at significant risk. Patients need nurses who can cope with life and aren't competing with them in not being able to cope.

posted in error

posted in error

No you aren't over-reacting. The unit is heading for a disaster, you've made them aware of the problems. You need to get out of there as quickly as you can so that they don't take you down with them.