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I worked in ICUs for 10 years, ERs for 2. I went into home care and made 100,000 my first year. Year 3, 183,000 and I have the w2 in a frame to prove it. Home care will not pay for your experience, but you sure as hell can put that experience to good use.

I am a male RN (ADN) x 16 years, all at the bedside. I tell you no BS. The people that work under you resent you. It's not you they are angry at but it gets directed at you. The people under you work very short handed and they know it and they resent it. I work in a vent unit and my aids care for 10 freaking patients at a time. That is insane. The family's are ******, the patients and docs get ******......that **** is coming your way. The bosses can't give a crap. In the last year, I have seen the bosses ignore patient and family complaints. The bosses have the attitude that seems to say "We are making money, more staff means less money, sorry" and that is the attitude they have with the customers !!!! The staff that you depend on is in the same boat. We run with 2 resp. techs, 15 years ago, we had 4 on duty. The equipment we use today is at least 15 years old. It is not uncommon for me to strip a patient on a vent of a pulse ox cable and put it on a new admit. The Boss tells you to do it and tells you that the patient has been stable. No patient on a vent should not have a pulse ox on. Even the cleaning crew gets backed up and gets ****** off about it. But the real crazies are the nurses you work with. Nurses are like a lot of other people. They come to work all ****** off at the kids or some other BS and they always find the male RN to take it out on. Think long and hard bro. If I knew 16 years ago what I know today !! Never would have happened.

They can't "up" your rate. They can "advise" the Boss what kind of increase will be coming.

You are correct, my mistake. However, the end result, need for and use of the 90/10 is the same.

I never said the Obama admin. is right wing. However, one only has to look at his history on trade policy to see that his admin. is business friendly. Hipaa was passed under Clinton, however, it was the Bush admin. that allowed insurance company's to share info. That was sold to the public as "greater privacy," it was not.

I looked at your profile. More staff with a BSN means nothing to patient care. If a floor should have 8 nurses on duty and only 4 are on duty, which is routine today, then the care suffers. I have worked on floors with both percentages of nurses. When ADNs work short the care is bad. When BSNs work short the care is just as bad. The study's are suspect. There is no shortage of nurses willing to sell-out their fellow nurse today for the almighty buck. I trust nurses with vested interest in "nursing education" the least.

Sorry, I hit the send key again. I will never get used to typing on an iPhone. As I was saying - most of the income today is from the online schools. I do not see NSG Mags in a hurry to bite the hand that feeds them. The studies mean very little today. There is no shortage of folks in academia that will put out a paper in-support of a financial gain. Look no further than the climate debate, lots of papers in defense of the coal industry, all of them debunked over time. The money trail alone on this issue raises plenty of suspicion. In the last six weeks there has been lots of news coverage concerning the online schools and their greed. The US Military has asked for investigations into the online schools. After being at the bedside for 16 years, I find it hard to believe the CEOs motive for BSN Only has anything to with better care. In fact, I think this will lead to worse care for the public in the future. Who will fight the CEOs ?? Nurses that owe 10 grand and work in a open job market or the nurse that owes 80 and is working in this job market.

I would not trust any NSG publication concerning this debate. In this area of the country, Gannett education has been a major advocate of the BSN Only push. Gannett is a subsidy of Gannett Newspapers. The parent company has a long history of aggressive anti labor activity that is well documented. In addition, these publications have lost tons of ad income when the hospitals no longer needed to place full page help wanted ads. The ad space is now almost intirley

That school is not known to me. You should call and ask them about their completion rate. If they are not forthright with a response then ask more questions.

The 90/10 rule lets schools admit students into programs that should never be near a college. Think of a kid that has a C average in math. The kid wants to be a rocket scientist but gets rejected by every school in the world. One of these online schools will admit him, the online school will admit nine other kids just like him if they can get just one non BSN RN into a slot. The online school can get funding for nine kids that have no chance of ever finishing the program because they were able to hook just one non BSN RN.

However, let me address your point if I understand it correctly. I live in Phila, Pa. I work with nurses that owe 100,000 grand in student loans for a BSN. They did not attend the city's only ivy league school. I would have to say that the cost of a BSN at one the areas private schools is in the 60 to 80 grand range. At Temple U. the city's state school, tuition will run from 12 to 15 to 20 grand a year depending on grant status.

I think you missed the point. Many parties have an interest in pushing non BSN RNs back to school. Non BSN RNs are being used to rip off the American public. If the online schools can get one non BSN RN in a seat then that school can continue to recruit students that have little chance of ever graduating. These online schools are raking in billions of your tax dollars by admitting students that do not belong in college. The cost of my program vs what you paid has nothing to do with it. CEOs want RNs that are deep in student loan debt. Workers burdened with financial debt are much more flexible and less likely to fight for better patient care. The push for BSN Only, is a PR propaganda ploy. It's goals are anti labor and anti nurse. One of the end results will be an educational system that is flat broke and in need of more tax dollars.

Looking to return to school for your BSN?? Make the school pay for it. One RN in a classroom allows funding to continue for nine dropouts.

That's not the point. True, HIPPA has fines and allows the public to sue for damages. However, when it comes to protecting health information it is a failure. The end result of HIPPA is less health care coverage for Americans. That means less income for hospitals. HIPPA is a fine example of propaganda at work.

Sorry, I hit the "Send" tab by mistake !!!!! This is a first draft only. It has a few type errors and still needs some work. I am a male RN with big thumbs. One tiny bit off and my work went into the net before I realized what happened. I must also tell you that I am a regular working stiff with no writing experience at all. Once again, I am sorry for hitting the send key far too early. Feel free to contact me at [email protected] about this first attempt to become the next Chomsky/ Hedges. Haha - that was a joke !!

The push for Magnet status and BSN Only is rooted firmly in fraud. As usual, this Wall Street scam has many players and angles. To those that study propaganda and disaster capitalism; the latest from the CEO class is testament to how dumbed down the average worker has become in America. I went to NSG school 16 years ago. The cost for a ADN at a major university, minus grants, was about 12 grand. My alma mater wants over 50 grand for me to finish my BSN. A full 90% of that BSN will be done on line. That my fellow brothers and sisters is a CEO wet dream come true. Very little staff or facility cost to eat into that profit margin. One of reasons CEOs want BSNs is because of the student debt factor. We all know what kind of work nursing is. Short staffing is the norm since I became a nurse. Ancillary staff is always in short supply and often has a less than perfect attitude. The short term profit motive takes priority over patient care and safety today, so much so that managers don't even try to hide it or make excuses for it. We know what this leads to, another shortage. The CEOs want to the next generation of RNs deep in debt. RNs that owe 40 to 100 grand (common with the cost of education today) in student loans will think twice before leaving NSG to have kids or find work in less demanding professions. Try to unionize ?? Not too many RNs will rock the boat on any issue that bucks the bottom line. Try to improve staffing or patient care ?? My loan cost about 120 a month for 10 years, the new RNs will fight for very little thanks to the cost of school today and the CEOs know it. Online schools are the biggest players in this scam. Online education schools can cost as much as an ivy league school, with the taxpayer footing the bill. Online schools offer many degrees to students across the country. NSG plays a major role in keeping these failed schools green with your tax dollars. Online schools are a failure across the board. Most students that in-role will never graduate. The few students that do graduate will find their degree worthless in today's job market. The default rate on the student loans paid to these schools will make even the most jaded taxpayer want to vomit. NSGs role in all this is simple. Online schools are forced to operate under a 90/10 rule. If online schools can get just 10% of students to graduate or just 10% to find a job, the online schools can continue to get government (taxpayer) money for the other 90%. Non BSN RNs are proven students. Non BSN RNs have a track record of success in academics and will more than likely finish any online program. Non BSN RNs when they enter these programs most likely have a job and will have that job when they graduate. Are you putting this together yet ?? The push for the BSN Only is a propaganda ploy from Wall Street funded PR firms. Edward Brenays would be proud. The more non BSN RNs that attend online schools, the more students the online schools can in-role and get paid for. It is important to mention that the 90/10 rule was forced on the schools by congress because of the dismal default rate. The schools win, the Wall Street Investors win, hospital CEOs win, the non nursing students that drop out lose and the American taxpayers lose. NSG will lose as well. Workers that are trapped because of debt become slaves to the greed of the system. The greed of this system will hurt the patients we care for.

Probably not. HIPPA was passed under Bush. The Bush administration was expert at passing laws with public friendly sounding names. Much like the right wing think tanks we have today.

There are two parts to HIPPA. The part the public and the health care industry fret about is the "private information" part. However, the second part of HIPPA is never mentioned. Welcome to the world of bogus law making. HIPPA was sold to the public as the "great protector" of your health information. Sounds great, if you have a health problem, you can be sure your care takers will be vigilant with your info. Who would protest such a law ?? No one would complain about a law that keeps info about your health problems secret !! Toss HIPPA in front of the uninformed and most propagandized people on earth ( the American public) and the law passes with no opposition at all. Let's look at the part of HIPPA the American people know nothing about. The insurance company's do not want to insure sick people, period. Sick people decrease profits. Let's say you work at company A, and company A has an insurance company they use to insure their workers. Ten years later you want to work for company B.. Maybe you were fired or maybe company B just pays better, closer to home, nicer bosses, any of a thousand reasons. During your ten years at company A you developed heart disease. Company B has a different insurance company than company A, so why worry about a thing ??? Company A's insurance company will not say a world about your problem to company's B's insurance company.....right??? Wrong. Company Bs insurance company will learn all about your health history from the other company. Its the "Portability" part of HIPPA. That's right, every test, doctors appointment, surgery, will be passed on without your permission. Your potential new boss will not know about your history. However your new boss will get a heads up on the cost of putting you on his team. Surprise, not a whole lot of protection on the back end of HIPPA. It is tricky legal ground for an employer to refuse a position based of health history. Refuse a position based on cost is a different story. HIPPA is needed. My neighbors do not need to know my health issues, that's fair. HIPPA was sold to us under that pretense. However, the real motive behind HIPPA is insurance company profit at the expense of your privacy.