Thanks, I guess everyday you learn something new. My initial feeling was to ditch it all (and she did), but in the future I will advise to do differently. I have only been out of school for about 2 years, so I know I still have so much to learn-never ending. As far as checking VS, I wasn't involved in his direct care-we do have the policy of every 30 minutes so I tend to think that the nurse caring for him probably wasn't doing what she was supposed to. Thanks for the input! :)