Holistic12

It's interesting at what you all zone in on in my posts. I post some good points, yet you focus on trivial stuff like how I said I stay 3 feet away from sick people. Now it's about the gov. Sheesh. You're right. We won't get anywhere. We will have to agree to disagree. I represent a growing number of people though. This message board has been very heavy in your favor; however, there are plenty more people out there who are beginning to question vaccines. There are many questioning a lot about our society. I feel we are on the verge of something new. More people will demand a more focused or functional medicine approach to healthcare. The current system is not working. More people are becoming aware of what is in their food and how it is affecting their health. More people than ever want a natural approach to their healthcare. Many take care of themselves in such a way so that they can avoid the doctor as much as possible. Pay the farmer or pay the doctor. It's true. I am great nurse regardless. I take great care of my patients. People who know me know this. I care about health. I care about other peoples health. I don't feel conventional health care offers enough by the way of wellness and holistic care. I think there needs to be lots of improvements in healthcare. There is too much focus on pushing pills and not enough focus on actually solving the problem. If that was working, we wouldn't see so many sick people. It's not working. It's an old system, and it needs to be updated.

Here is a list of more inserts. While you may all criticize the source, the links lead to the gov pages on the insert. Influenza Disease and Vaccines - National Vaccine Information Center

Safety probably wasn't tested. It says it wasn't "established."

An informed decision is right. Or would it just be about how great vaccines are. How about letting her know that her child could die (but they say it's rare) or could become ill after the vaccine. Instead we tread lightly on those parts of education. We don't want to scare someone into not taking it but convince them that the risk is so low. But what if their child is the one.

Maybe not on the bottle itself but in the insert. See here.... http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM263239.pdf "--USE IN SPECIFIC POPULATIONS---------------------• Safety and effectiveness of AFLURIA have not been established inpregnant women or nursing mothers. (8.1, 8.3)• Antibody responses were lower in geriatric subjects than in youngersubjects. (8.5)• AFLURIA is not approved for use in children less than 5 years of agebecause of increased rates of fever and febrile seizures. One comparatorcontrolledtrial demonstrated higher rates of fever in recipients ofAFLURIA as compared to a trivalent inactivated influenza vacc"

I am aware of this. Handwashing. It works. I have only had the flu MAYBE 2 times ever in my life, and I have NEVER had the flu shot. Again, you took what I said out of context. I said, if I am around someone that is ill, I try to stay 3 feet away. At work, that is not possible. I have to wear a mask because I do not take the shot. I do not provide care from 3 feet away. Really? Do you honestly believe that is even possible?

I have considered it.

No, it's what is happening. You just can't see it or don't want to. If you take a look at history, you might better understand how governments tend to become corrupt. I wouldn't doubt it if we see another Hitler-like situation someday. Edward Snowden? Remember him? Yeah he busted out the gov for their surveillance program. I'm sure there is much more going on that we aren't even aware of. Conspiracy? Nope. It's just the truth. It's what is happening in the world. So why would I feel confident in gov funded studies?

And you can all continue to believe in your tainted studies. Vaccines do cause harm to people, and I'm willing to bet it's more than we even know. It would take billions of dollars to study everything in this world. There are some things we just won't know because no studies will be done because it won't be important enough. Some here seem to think that they only believe in a treatment because of a study. If the study says it's good, it must be good. Really? Again, data can be twisted. Again, sometimes personal observation is evidence enough.

I agree. Thank you for your input. You are not a horrible person and don't let anyone here make you feel that way.

That's funny. It really is. Of course, you know it's not true. You don't know me. You take what I say out of context and twist it to your liking. It's really just a stab at me.

I doubt that. I am amazed at how many go along with various scientific studies, claiming it as truth, when there has been evidence of scientists twisting the data. This can happen especially by those who take a special interest in the study group itself.

That is not the only reason why.

They could wear masks couldn't they? Yeah they should take precautions as well.

Your comment was sarcastic and related back to when I mentioned that I stay 3 feet away from sick people. However, if you read in context what I was saying you would understand that when I provide patient care, I wear a mask. Masks are required for patients in droplet precautions.