LilBitty

what do you do now?

Really thinking about taking a break from nursing to have more time with my kids (2yo & 9mos). I would love to work from home, but it would have to be at night since their father works morning and we don't do daycare (I mean daycare is TOTALLY out of the question). Just wondering if anyone else decided to stay home and work, or not work. Suggestions and stories are always welcome 😊.

To OCNRN, the key word in that sentence is "taking corticosteroids." I have asthma, and do not take corticosteroids. I have an albuterol inhaler. Either way, I agree. Let the thread die. When it gets to the point that adults begin to insult and/or disrespect one another to prove a point, I think it's time let it go. So farewell ladies and gents

GrnTea, no disrespect but Hun this topic has been beaten to death so much so that the horse has made its way far past heaven. If it's not apparent by now it should be, but my opposition is the only thing keeping this thread going. Honestly this thread was past it's prime the day after it was posted, but I continued to engage random posts because it was (at first) interesting to see the same passion reciprocated in an opposing poster. Now, it's becoming redundant and repetitive. I'm sorry I don't have more for you .

I like that poster Grumpynurse. I really hate that situation in Africa. It seems like there is always something of catastrophic nature happening to a continent of soooo many.

Since when has asthma immunocompromised anyone? Cancer, sure, but asthma? I don't ever recall asthma compromising my immune system, my lungs maybe, but not my body's natural ability to fight (let's say) an infection in my arm or leg. It's amazing that you care about contracting something now, but could care less about people who are arguing the same exact thing about Ms. Kaci and the uncertainty of what to do to contain Ebola. This boggles me? And out of curiosity, before you were REQUIRED to get annual flu shots by your employer, how many times did you actually contract the Flu? I caught mine at work from a patient who I begged the doctor to test for, but no one believed he had it because it was summer and "not flu season." After three days of giving him hugs and reassurance because he didn't know what was happening and at that time all his tests were negative, we would eventually test him for flu and find him to be positive. Three other nurses caught the flu, and those three were vaccinated.

Sure do...how is it that you fight a quarantine, but insist that I take a vaccination that apparently doesn't react well with me. If it did that to my arm, I only can imagine what would happen if I take it nasally. Are you afraid of the flu, but not Ebola? Does the thought of me sneezing haunt you in your sleep like the boogey man. At least if you were to catch the flu from me, you can take Tamiflu. What are you gonna take when Kaci gives you Ebola lol?

OCNRN, I'll take my chances like Kaci. When I felt sick I stayed home. And if I feel sick in the future, I will stay home. *Adds sarcasm* Fortunate for me, I didn't die or bleed to death despite only having a headache at best. Aside from the fact that first flu shot I ever received literally left a baseball sized knot in my deltoid, I think with the way a lot of these nurses on here think, they'll be ok one way or another. So what is your next point?

Flalleycat, I said the exact same thing so now you agree?

What's crazy is I didn't panic about Ebola when I first heard it made its way to shore. I started to become concerned when more cases evolved. And then I had one of those mommy moments when you look at your kids all wide eyed and imagine if your babies were to get sick. That's when I went into research mode. It would be less troubling if I were single and without children, but with kids you view things differently. Being overly cautious becomes your daily routine, because you want to prevent unnecessary injury or harm. I couldn't begin to tell you how many trips I made to the ER with my first child because of uncertainty. I didn't care what WebMD said, I wanted to know for sure. *My Point* I look at this situation the same way. It never hurts to play it safe because you could be sorry. With such uncertainty about a fairly deadly disease, why not be careful. I gave up my right to peace, silence, freedom, and partying the moment I had children. Now I do things with their interests in mind FIRST. It is my duty as a parent. So as a caregiver I expect the same duty from Kaci, not just in Africa but in the States as well. Unfortunately, fear is forever and ALWAYS going to be apart of human nature. Remember we panicked about Y2K, 2012, Mad Cow, Swine Flu, etc. It is something we just do. Thumbing your nose up and having media wars does not help simmer those fears. It compounds it. Sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture and take one for team. I know Santa isn't real, but if it makes my child feel comfortable at night knowing Santa is coming on Christmas, my husband and I will gladly keep that charade going however ridiculous it makes us look.

It can be if the virus can remain infectious on surfaces up to 50 days.

I have also inadvertently parked in someone's vomit, walked through someone's cough cloud lol, urinated so hard that I had splash back , forgot to wash my hands before eating, bit my fingernails while my hands were dirty, shook some questionable hands, took a sip of the wrong drink, and the list goes on. I live normally when I go out.

I don't understand your question. I don't do anything to anyone. I do touch surfaces however, and use public restrooms, and walk on pavement with shoes that enter my home where my youngest crawls. I do have a toddler that manages to attract every sticky substances known to man and places her hands on any and everything she can reach lol. ***semi-cute moment alert*** I took my toddler to Sprint, and as I'm talking with the associate I look down to notice that she is picking the nose of the toddler next to her. Being a nurse, I immediately grab her hands in an effort to sanitize them and she flicks my lip.. She found it hysterical. I laugh at it now, but I was highly teed at the store lol.

There is no need to be rude. The only ignorance on here is coming from your computer (or phone), whichever. I'm all for having a friendly debate, but I won't sit here and emotionally argue with an adult on the internet. Question your own professional practice because I'm very content with mine. Good day

Well I had the flu already, H1N1 to be exact. . Hurt like the dickens too, but not bad enough for me to get vaccinated in the future lol. It should be apparent by now that I have trust issues as it relates to healthcare practices .

I'm keeping up with this story and I saw. I did my part by signing the petition. Not much else I can do right now buddy. You win some, you lose some...just hope I live ebola free to see another day lmao

You're welcome

YOU WILL HAVE DIRECT CONTACT IF SHE BECOMES SICK WHILE OUT AND ABOUT. In the words of Drake, it appears Ebola symptoms can go "0-100 real quick" lol. And since Ebola can live on surfaces for up to 50 says, whose to say that vomit or spit doesn't end up on the shoe of an immunocompromised kid let's say. Or how about she gets the sharts at Chipotle, and that pregnant lady who has to pee very badly inadvertently sits on specs of poop. That was pretty gross lmao. We don't know. What if she is out and falls ill and someone comes to aid her in her time of need and inadvertently contracts ebola and sicken his or her family? This has happened, and it was the reason Ebola made it to Nigeria. Someone broke free from quarantine because they were feeling fine. Got on a plane, got sick immediately, threw up. Got in a taxi and sought help at the nearest hospital. Fortunately no one on the plane got sick, but the people who got him to a taxi, the taxi driver, the doctor, the doctor's wife, and patients the doctor treated DID.

OMG, did YOU even read your own sources. This is a quote from your source about saliva and sweat: . Secondly, her quarantine at home was voluntary. SHE stated that she wasn't going to abide, so they took further measures (just as the CDC suggests doing). I can't even right now

If you're going to argue a point, all I ask is for evidence to support your claim. It's simple. I truly believe that she is not infectious while asymptomatic. I have never argued against that THEORY. My stance has always been, why risk being out and about and subsequently developing symptoms, at which point you will become infectious. Then it will become a situation of let's find all your contacts, scare them half to death, decontaminate everything you touched, spend more taxpayers dollars to monitor the contacts of your contacts WHEN YOU CAN JUST STAY AT HOME FOR 3 DAG NABBIT WEEKS. It's amazing that the CDC recommends HOME monitoring of contacts for smallpox (something we have a vaccination for), but everyone is getting up in arms about Ebola. Don't get me wrong, there a couple of instances that I've heard were people were behaving very irrationally. As was in the case of the Nigerian girl told to remain home from school and the two brothers that were picked on in school. Nigeria has been considered Ebola free for over a month now, so I don't see the school's reasoning for making her stay home. The parent also stated that they would get tested, but the school refused that too. That, IMO, is irrational and overkill. And with the brothers who were picked on, I never condone violence so I find those children involved appalling. However, Kaci has been in DIRECT contact with patients who are at their most infectious. I have also heard from sources that her roommate had contracted the virus. She, IMO, should be monitored at HOME with restrictions just as the CDC (of whom she works for) suggests for these level 3 and 4 infectious diseases. What is so difficult about that. She is no hero to me, I'm sorry. If you want to fight a cause, fight one that actually BENEFITS others aside from yourself.

Show me proof. I'm doing my part by providing links from reputable journals. Where is your proof? Call me what you want, or insinuate what you want. It really doesn't make me poop...not like Ebola anyway. Here's another study about uncertainty of how ebola is transmitted: Transmission of Ebola virus from pigs to non-human primates : Scientific Reports : Nature Publishing Group

Above study was done on Pigs with the lesser hemorrhagic strain.

Well here's a quote and link from one study: Link: Jnl Inf Dis

Didn't I just say transmission was debatable because of lack of research? Or did you choose to IGNORE that?

Am I the only person that knows science changes. Diseases change. Biology changes. There is no, and I repeat NO, scientific proof that MSF's protocol for returning workers is best practice. What they offer is a suggestive practice. They suggest you do those things to be safe, so why is it wrong for our local leaders to do the same. Here is a link regarding quarantining: The quarantine period for Ebola virus That seems like scientific evidence to me. If I'm not mistaken, Nigeria DID quarantine contacts as well. Especially after one broke quarantine (like kaci) and ended up infecting a doctor, who in turn infected his wife and others. If this disease is so hard to catch, why are we treating people in hazmat suites? Be for real. I can treat AIDS with gloves, and TB with an N95, gown, and gloves. Why do I need a hazmat suit? Why do I need to be deconimated afterwards? Why do they suggest working in pairs for safe removal of PPE? Why must we cremate their remains? Why is all this necessary for a disease that is "not easy to catch" or "not as bad as we're making it?" Why should people NOT be worried if this disease is such a walk in the park? This is not rocket science. Why aren't the troops complaining? What makes her so special that she feels like she can do whatever she pleases after leaving a hot zone, and our troops are doing it in a Luke warm zone. FACTS THAT ARE KNOWN: 1. It can kill you quickly 2. It is communicable 3. It has a well documented INCUBATION PERIOD. Everything else from testing, to modes of transmission, to viral shedding, to contagious period are ALL debatable because of lack of sufficient research. I'm not going to live in a bubble and I'm not going to quit my job, but I expect the same respect and regard for my health as I show my patients and others. I may only have seasonal allergies, if I sneeze and cough, I'm still going to cover my mouth out of respect for others. I'm not infectious, BUT YOU DONT KNOW THAT. If I SUSPECT my children are sick, I keep them at home so that others are not affected. As as I stated before, this woman initially read that she had a fever. The governor thought he was doing what was best. This, apparently, is not something leave to chance.