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CRNA are nurses, nothing more, nothing less. Expecting a surgeon to safely supervise a CRNA is unsafe; ergo you have an unsupervised nurse doing anesthesia unless you have an anesthesiologist present.

stan-you are pretty funny; sad but funny nonetheless. It's obvious that you are insecure in your nursing job; as are a few CRNA who tout their abilities as "equal" to an anesthesiologsit. That point of view is totally silly.

"supervision is a billing formality"? that's the most arrogant statement that I have heard in a long time......

tirade of untruths? it's common sense that unsupervised nurses should NOT be providing ANY anesthesia care..........

The difference is that your "research" is nursing-driven drivel.............If you want an unsupervised nurse doing your anesthetic, feel free too do so.

I must have had an awesome doc and nurses for my c-scope; I didn't get any drugs and it wasn't bad at all. After one of our primary care docs had long-term memory loss after a c-scope with Versed, I decided to skip it.

I don't know about Admirals, Generals etc, but none of the physicians in my department would want an nurse administering their anesthesia unless the nurse was supervised by an anesthesiologist...and that's a distant choice to having an anesthesiologist do the case 1:1. I'm sure that there are settings where CRNA practice without anesthesiologist supervision; I think that this is unsafe and so does every physician that I know. I'll be scheduling my own surgery soon and the surgeon said that he would not be operating unless an anesthesiologist was managing the case. WTBCRNA: I understand your opinion as a nurse, I just totally disagree that CRNA are safe to practice without anesthesiologist supervision..

For me, the basic question is: "do you want an unsupervised nurse (CRNA) doing your anesthesia"? When asked this somewhat blunt but honest question, most patients will answer with a resounding "no". Virtually every physican will give a more colorful answer, but it will still be no. Many will be o.k. with a closely supervised CRNA; but a surprizingly high number will not be..they never get the chance to decide. A patient (who was in a CRNA program) asked me: "name one thing that an anesthesiologist can do that a CRNA can't)...my answer is simple: "practice medicine"....

We have both (PharmD and CRNA) in the family........the PharmD thinks that he is a physician and the crna thinks that she is an anesthesiologist. since I paid for both educational programs, I have a comment: if these programs lead to that type of thinking, stay out of both fields. I'm a lot more impressed with a "plain" RN

once again, you need to read my comment. if you think that a nurse/crna is "equal" to an anesthesiologist, I disagree with you. many would say that you have a problem with reality testing. I don't trash crna, they have a place when supervised. calling an unsupervised crna an "anesthesi provider" is akin to calling a drug-dealer an unliscenced pharmacist. if you want your anesthesia delivered by an unsupervised nurse, go right ahead. But patients deserve better. it's common sense.

Read my comment again, I said: "Comparing the abilities and training of an anesthesiologist to a CRNA is a bit silly"....nobody said that crna do not have a role etc, etc.....but equating the abilities of a nurse/crna to that of an anesthesiologist is more than silly. it's dangerous. properly supervised, crna do indeed have a role. and as far as the "small community hospital in my rural community" being serviced by crna only (supervision is 45 min away)...sorry, I don't buy that. country folk deserve an anesthesiologist just as much as city folks. when something goes wrong that's beyond the ability of a crna to handle, the sky will indeed fall; maybe some people don't think that people who live in a rural setting deserve proper anesthesia care.....I do. whenever possible, they should be transported to the nearest "city" hospital.

Comparing the abilities and training of an anesthesiologist to a CRNA is a bit silly. I work with a lot of CRNA and not one of them thinks that they are equal in any way, shape of form to an anesthesiologist. Closely supervised by an anesthesiologist, C RNA have a support tole; nothing more, nothing less. On the net you hear all kinds of comments about equality, but it's really quite silly.