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no i don't. i can only describe things as they appear to me to be. i was only wondering if anyone in this forum would consider the situation evil. but it's time to move on to new business i think. the monist

Oh. Well, it sounds like you had a positive learning environment in school. The Monist

No. I'm not, actually. The Monist

I was a student, and I didn't trust my own observations at the time. The Monist

Good point! The Monist

You have got to be who I think you are. There cannot be two of you. I notice you just joined this group today. Nevermind. Have a nice life. The Monist

No. But I learned a lot. I'll never do the same thing when I'm an RN. The Monist

Actually, that's a broad definition of the word, but it's close. Technically, I'm an acosmic monist. I believe that only God exists and everything else is an illusion created by God, and so doesn't exist or isn't real the way God is real. As for being compatible with nursing, I would say that it is. I see my patients as myself. I see my coworkers as myself. Naturally, I'm somewhat fanatical about the Gospels. I couldn't care less about the other books of the Bible, but Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, and even Thomas really get to me. Thanks for letting me ramble. The Monist

You don't believe in God? And we are not then meat puppets? Interesting dichotomy. I think you don't believe in God because you don't see the forest for the trees. Be that as it may, I agree with your MO regarding pain meds and homeless screamers. I wish I could give more info, but if I did, and that nurse were in this forum, he/she would immediately know who I was and that I was talking about them. So, I guess this conversation is over. But the title is Good and Evil, so we could go around on that for a while. Don't you think you've ever seen or read about or saw on the news some example of "evil?" The Monist

Your theories are very intriguing, except for one small detail: I'm not an RN yet; I was a student. So, discount me, but I saw what I saw. If it makes you more comfortable, we can just drop this whole string and move on to some new business. The Monist

once again, what are you talking about? you seem to be quite strange...almost scary. it really frightens me that you take care of patients! i wish i had a dime... oddly enough, i pray before every shift that god will give me a good attitude, patience, and the knowledge that i need to get through the shift. does it work? maybe you should do that same ...pray for yourself and not label people as good and evil. i tell you, if i weren't already a christian who was secure in my beliefs, you would definitely turn me completely off the word of god. your turning on or off to the word of god is entirely between you and god. please don't ascribe powers to me that i don't possess. god wants us to be a living example ("...they will know us by our fruits") i hope you don't go around your unit "preaching" your twisted views of christianity. remember, god will hold you accountable for that, too. sometimes, it's just better to shut our mouths and be a living example...like i try to do! yeah, you're obviously very kind and non-judgemental. and in truth, i don't talk about my religion at all to my patients. the monist

Well, that's surely one way to make the evil disappear: just invent a whole new scenario where it doesn't exist. The Monist

It's funny that you're a secular humanist and don't believe in God, since God, Himself, aspires to be a secular humanist and has to try really hard to believe we exist. But that's another topic. So you would call it negligence. So would I except I know the nurse knew exactly what he/she was doing. No negligence involved. If you don't like the word "evil" I could settle on the word "malice." The Monist

you know, you never had to profess it at all, and i still would have guessed that you're a christian. i, myself, am not. but i certainly agree with your statement about attitude in perineal care. as for being crazy, i stopped caring about that a long time ago, but thanks for the observation. it doesn't offend me at all. the monist

given your attitude, i'll bet my attitude really does bug you. but here's the real difference: i'm not waiting for mds to grant me status or professionalism. i couldn't care less what they think about me. the last thing i need when i'm sick is a nurse that demands respect and pay for their professionalism and education. the last thing the world needs is another self-appointed emperor. the monist