Pepperpants

I think sprague steths suck. The sound could be clear but I sold mine as the binaurals just did not fit and the extrnal noise always sneaked in my ears... Not for us EMT students I guess.. The double tubing was really stiff and not too flexible. Sold it.

Hey there, Thanks for the reply. Well in terms of the cardiology model, I am not planning to spend that much. Might sound silly but I would like to switch to something cheaper but still very close to the classic II SE. I have a Littmann Classic II SE, great scope, was a very lucky purchase from ebay, don't even want to say how much I payed for it... that would **** some people off I guess. :) (Was a good deal, came from a lady doc who switched to the infant model as she was working with kids) BUT in prehospital situations I might need a cheaper but still good alternative... Something which is similar to the Littmann but would not make me feel that sad if accidently I have to leave it behind meanwhile escaping from a burning house for example... Well, some dudes say good things about the classic II knockoff: the adc 603. Some say that the MDF 777 (md one) is a keeper, and right now I have found this 747XP MDF model, identical to the 777 but lighter and cheaper. Not to mention how great these two models look in that totally black edition... (but that's not that important right now).. So any experience out there with the MDF 747XP model? Or shall I just look for the ADC603 or spend a bit more on the MDF 777? (but then still we are at the 50 USD price-range and here we go again, nearly Littmann price...) So this is the dillema here. Thank you all for helping anyway!

Do you guys have any experience with the MDF 747XP model? Same as the 777 but I guess it is aluminium therefore it is cheaper? Does the material really mattters that much regarding sound transmittion? It looks exactly the same as the 777 md one model, but cheaper.. Even though the article says they are very identical quality-wise.. Or should I just drop the idea of getting the MDF 747XP or 777 and go for the ADC603??? Got no idea which one to go for... Any suggestions?

Hi there j_tay! Always nice to read your posts, very informative. Please provide me some help! I have a Littman Classic but I don't wanna bring it on the road and practice (EMT student I am) as I am afraid it would grow legs.. I might need a very similar, equally good scope and I am thinking about buying an MDF 777 med One - you have one as I know.. Could you please provide me some info, about how accurate it is for bloodpressure and basic auscultation? I am thinking about these: Prestige Clinical One MDF 777 ADC 603... which one to get? please give me some suggestions, pros and contras for each as you have experience with them... I am mostly interested in how loud are these or which one might be close to the Classic II SE. So many scopes I have tried and honestly lots of the cheap ones are cheap for a reason.... hard to hear breath sounds and faint S1/S2 with them, not to mention the extra beats - they are simply inaudible with cheapos... Looking forward to hearing from you! Thank you. Pepper

Hey Zooz, Which one you reccomend quality and sound-wise? Prestige Clinical I or MDF 777? I need a trusty scope with accurate sound. Thanks, P

Hi there, Can anyone tell me some experience with MDF stethoscopes? I' m thinking about ordering an MD One (777). It is on sale on a webshop... Any experiences? Is this really can be mentioned on the same page as the Littman Classic II SEs'? I am looking for the followings: MDF 777 MD One ADC 603 Prestige clinical 1 which one to get? There is a Littman Classic SE at home, but knowing that it can "grow legs" easily, I don't want to bring it tom hospital practices... so decided to leave it home for now... Any help is highly appreciated. Thank you!

Thanks mate! Yeah, maybe you are right, I will not bring the spghymomanometer. Just a friend told me they had seen weird stuff like over-used bp cuffs with holes on them, literally being useless taking bp... Anyway I find it ickey to use someone else's steht, so it should be a strict minimum to have my own... But there are weird conditions out there sometimes you know.. It is Hungary we talk about.. It is a cool country, but when it comes to healthcare ... Not always biscuits and overnight sensation.. Do you guys know how will it be for us EMTs and paramedics to have hospital practice? We have ambulance practice, when we hit the streets and collect ill people but we have received a schedule for hundreds of hours hospital and trauma practice... Is it gonna be just observing and some nursing or are we gonna be trained for internal medicine and toxicology as well... I hope so, I guess it would be more than nursing only (which is a good thing though), but getting some experience in diagnosis too in a basic level... Hope I did not ask something horribly stupid... :) Really cool to be on this forum, so many good people around immediately giving a supporting reply... Feel like being a kid here with my dumb and not too professional questions. Thank you guys anyways.. (Just please consider the fact that I am in a learning stage)

I guess the ambulance staff has a spghymomanometer in the rig, but where I am gonna work first is a bit different... Gonna be messing around in the suburbs (teacher says that's the best to gain experience) and some of the ambulance staff is badly-equipped. Means cheap steths, sometimes overused bp cuffs, etc.. No kidding. Therefore I think I just get myself some personal equipment to avoid this. Of course, I ain't gonna buy an ECG machine and things like that... just some basic things. Guys, you are really kind with all the replies. so a penny-cutter is useful then? I will hunt one down as well, but I guess the ambulance car has that one for sure.. (Sounds like I am gonna work on a war-field...) Any other suggestions welcome though, I am a newbie in this field.

Thank you guys! I haven't expected such a quick reply. Really kind of both of you! OK, I get a penlight, though I have an old one, but that is really "blinding"... Incandescent one. Gonna check on ebay, etc... What else should I be considering to have as my own equipment. I have a Riester spghymomanometer, which is really a sturdy one.. Really precise, prefer it to the electric ones.. Any other suggestions? I am just thinking that it cannot do any harm to have my own basic equipment, I know the ambulance cars have these but I guess it is overused by previous staff... Of course I will not by an ECG machine though.. ha ha :)

Hi there! I am new to this forum, but wanted to say hi to everyone anyway. I have a question. I am participating in a EMT Intermediate/paramedic - 15 month long vocational programme. I am just about to collect some gear. Is it a bit cocky that I have purchased a Littmann Classic? (The cheap steths are such a pain in the a..s meanwhile taking bloodpressure during practice.) I found one used in a good condition on ebay, so I immediately went for it. It is amazing when listening to heartbeats and lun sounds and really makes difference meanwhile taking bp. Are there any EMTs around by the way? Some might say a common sprague-type would do for us, but on longer terms isn't it better to have a good one? I know I am not going to be analizing heart sounds in details like doctors (crescendo murmurs, etc..) but we have clinical practice and thought I might bring my own steth.. (On the other hand it is just awful to use a steth which just have been in another person's ears.. eek) Do you guys think it is a good idea, or am I just overreacting this issue? I believe every health-professional should have their own basic, but quality equipment, am I wrong? Looking for advices, experiences with the classic SE, and all comments are welcome! Greetings to you all!