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The instructors that you have now are not the same ones that we had. We were enrolled in a different nursing program than the programs that they currently offer; the program that we were in was cancelled after one semester and most of the instructors that we had were not asked to continue teaching at Pace in any capacity, so it clearly had some major issues. I'm glad that your experience with Pace has been a good one.

Hi there! Lakeview is accredited through several accreditation boards, two of them being the CCNE and NLN. Though it varies by school, most graduate programs require your BSN to come from either a CCNE or an NLN accredited school. You mentioned the U of I as a possible grad school, if you have a BSN they require it to be from a CCNE or NLN accredited school. In my own research into FNP programs outside of Illinois the CCNE seems to be the most frequently required accreditation. I'm also currently applying for a job that requires my BSN to come from a CCNE accredited program. Accreditation requirements often change and vary by school so it's a good idea to be in contact with the grad program you are looking at so you don't waste your time on a program that doesn't meet their accreditation requirements. A list of the boards that Lakeview is accredited by can be found at the Lakeview website under the "about us" tab. Hope this helps! Good luck!

Hi! I go to the Danville campus, and Danville isn't the greatest town, but it's close to Champaign which isn't bad (a lot of people commute from Champaign)...at least there really isn't anything to distract you from studying here! The program is really short, so living in Danville for 16 months really isn't that bad. I transferred from another nursing school (and pretty much had to retake everything because the courses didn't align) and I have to say the first semester of school at Lakeview prepared me to be a nurse so much more than my previous program. Lakeview has some flaws of course, but I'd definitely recommend it. The instructors here, for the most part, really enjoy teaching and will go out of their way to give you extra help if you need it. I think the fact that Lakeview is so small is really beneficial too, you get to know the staff and faculty pretty well. I've never been to the Charleston campus and they have different faculty than we do at the Danville campus, so I can't really tell you anything about them. One thing that I really like is that it's not impossible to do well. The grading scale scared me when I first started (an A=93-100, B=85-92, C=77-84), which seemed like A's would be impossible to get, but if you're willing to work for them A's are definitely attainable. I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other questions!

Have you seen this on their website? They assign points to your application and the do look at science GPA in addition to cumulative GPA, so your great science GPA will help you out too. http://www.lakeviewcol.edu/AdmissionCriteriaPointSystem.asp

Hi there! I was really worried when I applied to Lakeview, I also had a rough period when I was working on my first undergraduate degree...they accepted me with a 2.8. I think a 2.5 is the minimum that they will accept, so I think you'll be fine, but I know waiting to hear back is the worst! Good luck!

You should double check, but I've heard that Pace did away with their evening and weekend program. There have been a number of posts on this website from people who attended the information session and they said that the evening program no longer exists...this wouldn't be surprising because 80% of their students failed out of that program this past semester. Most schools that I've been looking at don't offer a part time version of the accelerated program, but have part-time versions of their traditional program.

The Micro would be fine. When I applied to Pace I still had Micro outstanding and didn't finish it until the middle of August. I would be more worried about your GRE scores making it on time...if you took it now, it would be okay. Please review other posts on the accelerated program at Pace...I wouldn't recommend going there to my worst enemy. 77% of my class failed out the first semester. I was one of those who failed, and now I'm starting over in a new program $40,000 in debt because of Pace. Please also note that the people who failed out were incredibly smart, like the one came in with a 3.8 GPA from Cornell, and another was even a doctor. There are a lot of accelerated programs out there, and I just can't stress enough to check others out, because Pace is just awful! Here's a list of other accelerated baccalaureate programs in New York for people with degrees in other fields (there are also a bunch more in the Conneticut/New Jersey areas): -Binghamton University -College of New Rochelle -Columbia University -Concordia College of New York -Dominican College of Blauvelt -Hartwick College -Hunter College of CUNY -Lehman College -Molloy College -Mount Saint Mary College-New York -New York University -Stony Brook University -SUNY Downstate Medical Center -The Sage Colleges -University at Buffalo -University of Rochester -Wagner College Best of luck!

Please forgive me for my poorly written, bitter note. I have tried to delete it, but unfortunately I can't. I appreciate your giving feedback on your experience at Pace and agree that the more information that incoming students have, the better. I clearly misunderstood the intent of your first message. Thank you for the feedback.

CDP stands for "Combined Degree Program," and is for students who already hold a degree in a field other than nursing to get both their bachelors and masters in nursing all at the same time. I already have two bachelors degrees, one in Microbiology and one in Community Health Education, both from a school in California. The CDP is for people with degrees already, and generally speaking, the people in the RN4 program do not have degrees in another field. Hope that helps! Oh, I saw your post from a few days ago about there not being any students at the orientation that you went to. I would recommend you try to find Pace students through facebook, that's what I'm doing to investigate my new school, and a lot of people have been very willing to talk to me and have given me really good information. allnurses is a great resource, but it seems like most of the students are either really happy or really irritated with their programs, so it's nice to get a good average opinion.

Oh and in the CDP, bad grades are not allowed. If you get a C, you are kicked out of the program with no possibility of returning, you have to get a minimum of a C+, but if your GPA slips below a 3.0 you are out of the program. My classmate failed out with an A, a B and a C and she now has to start over at a new school. So, in the CDP there is no generous failing of 2 classes before getting kicked out, you aren't even allowed to do average in one class.

Jayhy15, Hi there, thank you for sharing your experience. Many of us were specifically speaking about the Combined Degree Program which is completely separate from the RN4 program. Of our program 80% of the students failed out and these were all Graduate Level students who hold degrees in other fields. Speaking for myself, I hold a degree in Microbiology from a very good school, with a very good undergraduate GPA and am fully aware of how demanding and stressful nursing programs are. Many of us had tutors, met with our teachers, and put in the time to succeed. The RN4 program is completely different from the CDP. The teachers, faculty and overall curriculum is completely different. While I appreciate your feedback on your program, to say we failed because we were not doing things the right way is not appropriate. You speak on behalf of your program, and we'll stick to speaking on ours. Again...everyone has a different experience, so those who are thinking of attending Pace, please meet with current or past students who are in or were in the program you are applying to.

Hi there, Thank you so much for the information! As far as I understand, I think if we start in the Fall and get a 3.0 in our first 2 semesters then we are able to take summer school and finish Fall 2011...if we don't get the 3.0 the first 2 semesters then we don't get to take summer school and we finish Spring 2012. Let me know when you hear back from Lakeview!

Hi there, I recently applied to the BSN program at Lakeview College of Nursing in Danville, IL and I was wondering if any of you could tell me a bit about it. I'm transferring from a program that I felt I couldn't graduate from and after my first semester I felt no closer to being a nurse than before I started. I guess I want to know how the faculty is toward students. Are they helpful and caring toward their students? Upon graduation do you feel ready to be a nurse? Overall, how is the program? Thank you!

Hi CaffeineRX, I'm sorry, I'm not able to send private messages, but I was able to read the one you sent. I'd love to chat, so maybe you could send me your email address in one of the private messages?

Me? No I will not be graduating from Pace...I was with the 80% of my classmates who failed out in my first semester. I'm starting at a new program and have already had a significantly better experience with this school. This school is honest, helpful and is really excited about giving people a good nursing education...all things that I did not experience with Pace. I wish you the best of luck, Aspiring Nurse!

I can't encourage everyone enough to do more research before attending Pace. I started the CDP program with just the information that they send you. And the US News ranking pretty well sold me on its own. I had read the negative comments about Pace on allnurses before starting, but I really just thought I was better than the people who posted those comments. Shame on me, I ended up with them and failed out this past semester too. Take the time and use things like Facebook to your advantage. Find people actually in the program to tell you about it, go visit the school, meet with the faculty, including the department chair, ask them what their graduation rates really are. Ask the faculty how many lawsuits are pending against the School of Nursing from former students. And believe me, the faculty is good about fudging their information to appeal to you, so ask detailed questions!!! They told us that they normally have a 90% graduation rate...but little did I know that they couldn't have possibly known that considering that they restructured the program, and we were their guinea pigs. Our class had an 80% fail rate from the first semester, and that poor 20% left in the program still has a year and a half to try to remain in the program. I find it a blessing that I was kicked out of Pace. Those left in the program are trying to transfer out, and they're wasting their time and money at Pace in the meantime.

Congratulations on getting an interview!!!! Do you mind if I ask what your undergraduate GPA was?

I'm getting a little nervous. I applied for Fall 2010 and based on reading the previous posts, it looks like I don't stand a chance. My GPA is just below a 3.0. It's just so sad how California has gotten so competitive since they cut all of the state funded programs. I applied to other schools out of state just to be on the safe side, but I really can't afford to move, so I'm really hoping Concordia will even look at my application! If any of you get interview invitations, please let me know!

From my understanding the program used to be pretty good and is newly based in NYC and all of the nursing programs have undergone restructuring and have become just awful. In my cohort 77% of the students failed out in the first semester, and I was an average student coming into the program, but some of the people that failed out came from schools like Cornell and Purdue with a 3.8 GPA. I know before I applied I read the negative posts as just people being bad students, but it was really just a bad program. I know trusting my word would be stupid but I can't encourage you enough to talk to the faculty and staff and find out how many people fail out of the program from their own words, as well as if they offer tutoring (they set me up with a tutor who failed out of the program), if the teachers offer office hours (mine did not), etc. Also, find people on Facebook that are going to Pace Nursing and see what their experiences have been. I'm begging you to please do your research! I thought the US News ranking spoke for itself and didn't look much into the program before starting, and now $40,000 later I am kicking myself for not learning more about the program! Good luck to you all!

To WheresCara... Go to Stony Brook!!! Living in NYC is wonderful, but as a student, it's not worth it. In Stony Brook you'll be close enough to the city to come visit on the weekends and won't have to have the exaggerated cost of living. Also, the BSN/MSN thing was appealing to me about Pace, but it's not as neat as it sounds. It's just like any other Accelerated BSN program. First you get your BSN then can practice nursing or start working on your MSN. Most of the Combined Degree students who pass the BSN portion don't actually get their MSN from Pace. You'd be doing exactly the same thing going to Stony Brook, getting your BSN, then applying to an MSN program after you graduate, and you'd spend a lot less money. And I wouldn't be worried about the ages of people in the programs. They all seem to bring in a variety of people...some 22 and some 60. This actually seems to add to the experience because everyone has unique backgrounds.

Pace is AWFUL!!! I moved to NYC just for school, went part-time and did not work, so the accelerated nature of the program was not a rational for my dismissal from the program. 6 out of 26 people made it through the first semester of the program, and mind you the program is 2 years long, so it's a pretty good guess that maybe 1 person will actually graduate from that class. My grades from my undergraduate degree weren't the best, but my pre-req GPA was pretty good. If you can get in anywhere else, go there!!! Anywhere but Pace!!! I read posts from people complaining about the program prior to my admission and I wish I had taken them more seriously. I thought, "Oh, that's just one person, they were probably just dumb." But people failed out of this program who were extremely smart! One girl was even a doctor from another country and didn't pass. I went to the Dean and the Dept. Chair a month into the program telling them that the program was a bomb and that more than 50% of the class was failing out and they both told me that I was exaggerating and that I was the only one who was failing out - clearly I was underestimating the problem. Oh...another note on their unprofessionalism...a staff member accidentally emailed students an excel spreadsheet with the social security numbers and birthdates of over 100 students (all of the CDP students, part and full-time). It wasn't until a student brought this to the Dean's attention that they even said anything about the error to the rest of the students. The staff member intended to not tell anyone about her mistake, regardless of the fact that over 100 student's itentities are now in jeopardy. This lack of integrity seems to be a staple for Pace's Lienhard School of Nursing. As for the fact that US News ranked the NP program #9 in the country, how they made it is anyone's guess. I know that was a huge selling point for me, but clearly it is a baseless ranking! I know many of my classmates ended up writing letters to the US News college reviews committee to have them revise Pace's high ranking. Please don't waste your time or money on Pace!