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  1. Jimmydaves

    Role of LPN/LVN in oncology

    Are there many job opportunities for LVN/LPN's in Oncology or a cancer treatment center? So far, all of the job listings for nurses in Oncology have been for RN's.
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    Where do most LVN's/LPN's work?

    I think if you read the question objectively that it's a genuine question without any hint of insult. I'm going through this very same thing so I would not insult any LVN/LPN or RN.
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    Where do most LVN's/LPN's work?

    Do you all welcome the added responsibilities that being an RN brings or are there some of you that are content to stay as an LPN/LVN and have no desire to move upward from there?
  4. Jimmydaves

    Where do most LVN's/LPN's work?

    I'd like to hear from the LVN's/LPN's regarding where do they find employment. Also, RN's can jump in on this one too. Thanks!
  5. I have been accepted at two nursing programs. One is an LVN program from a college that has an excellent reputation and a 99% pass rate. The second school is an RN program from a college that has mixed reviews from former students and their pass rate over the past 4 years as ranged from 60% to 75%. I know that most nurses would agree to go for the RN Program and I feel the same way. But if you feel that your training from an RN Program is not good and that you'd get great training at the LVN program, it makes you wonder at times. I know the pass rate for these schools sometimes is more student-related than school-related and I know that I would eventually like to be an RN at some point, but it's so difficult to find a school that has an LVN to RN bridge program and there's always a waiting list and you have to make "A's" on all of the pre-requisites as well. Just curious what others would think of this situation? Thanks!
  6. Hey Everyone! I love this forum! I've learned so much. Here's my question: I have been accepted into an LVN program from a good school in my hometown. I did not have enough Pre-requisites to get into their RN Program. They also offer an LVN to RN Transition Program as well. My ultimate goal is to become an RN and I was wondering how difficult it is for an LVN to become an RN? I know that it's so competitive these days to get into RN Programs and even LVN Programs. After I finish my LVN training am I going to have a rough time trying to get into an LVN to RN transition program? I really don't want to end up a waiting list for 1, 2, 3 years just to get my RN education and I'd like to get the RN training from the same school that I'd be getting my LVN Certification from. I know I could apply to other schools who have the LVN to RN program and I know a couple of people who have gotten their RN degree online, but started out as an LVN. I know that the nursing profession is just getting more competitive and in my area, there are like 10 times more openings for RN's than LVNs. The Nursing Chair suggested this option for me. I need 4 pre-reqs (I've already taken them but they're over 5 years old now). So she suggested taking 2 of them this Summer, completing the LVN Program which is August 2009 to August 2010 and then working for a year as an LVN and during that time, take the other 2 remaining pre-req classes and also the TEAS test (which is a Texas placement type of test and that score is used to help them as a guideline to acceptance into the RN Program). I don't really mind working a year as an LVN and I think it would be useful in many ways for this profession but my main concern is not getting accepted into the LVN to RN program. I don't know if the LVN to RN program is harder and more competitive than people trying to get into an RN program right off the bat. Ideally, I'd love to finish off with an Associates degree in Nursing from the same school I would get my LVN Certification, but there are 3 other schools that are close enough that it would be feasile to go through their LVN to RN program. What matters the most to me is getting a quality education and I know that this school has a good reputation and very high pass rate for the NCLEX as well. What do I do if I get turned down for the LVN to RN programs? Do I just keep persisting or do I looked into online programs like a couple of my friends did and they were quite successful at it? Thanks!
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    NCLEX question, your experience PLEASE?

    Just 2 questions, what is SATA mean and what has been the best way for you to prepare and study for taking the NCLEX? Do you find Study Guides better or some Preparation Class or should the notes you collect over your nursing program prepare you enough? Thanks!
  8. Hey everyone! I know Mercy College of Allied Health is a popular 4-year Nursing School in Des Moines, Iowa. Does anyone have any knowledge, impressions, information that they can share of this particular school? All I know is that they take over 200 RN students in the Fall and that the RN Nursing students are required to take a Nursing Assistant Certificate Program in the Summer before their Fall Admission as their sole main pre-requisite. I think that's a great idea. It gives the prospective student the experience of what kind of field they are getting into and it provides them with a CNA Certificate at the end of the Summer that they can use during the 2-year program if the student wishes to work on weekends as a CNA while attending school. I also like the fact that the pre-requisites that I would be taking for most other RN Nursing programs are actually part of the curriculum for Mercy College. Anatomy I & II and Microbiology are in taught in 3 different semesters. What a relief not to have to try and squeeze pre-reqs in and pay the added expense and time as well. Also, you get the first summer off. The entire 3 months and can work which is another plus and I like the fact that Mercy is a 4-year college that if you wanted to, you could get your BSN there as well. Let me know what you think or if you know anything about this school ok? Thanks!:loveya:
  9. Jimmydaves

    Help me decide between 2 Nursing schools

    Kylea, I agree with your assessment and that's what I'd really want to do. I feel that it's easier to do the LVN and then the LVN to RN Route. In Texas where they accepted me into their LVN Program, I originally applied for the RN program, but my pre-requisites were over 5 years old, so what I took in 2002-2004 would not be considered. The head of the Nursing Department told me that I would have a better chance at being accepted into their LVN Program, so I applied for that and got accepted. Of course, at the same time, I received an acceptance letter from Iowa for their RN program. The school in Texas has 4 pre-requisite classes and they also give credit for 5 of the classes offered in their RN Program and they are called co-requisites. So there are 4 pre-reqs and 5 co-reqs. The 4 co-requisites carry more value with respect to grades and are used in the determininig process for acceptance into the RN Program. The 5 classes are called co-requisites and you are given credit for taking those 5 classes before the start of the RN Program but you get 1 point credit for each of the classes you've taken. Then the remaining factor is your scores on the TEAS Test which I believe is used, primarily in Texas, as an entrance test for RN's here. The Iowa RN program has those pre-requisite classes as part of their curriculum, so instead of making taking Anatomy I & II this Summer in Texas, Iowa would offer those same classes in the Fall and Spring. Likewise for Microbiology and Math, same thing. The plan of action that the head of Nursing came up with in Texas was for me to get Anatomy I & II out of the way during this summer, take the LVN Program from August 2009 to August 2010, then because I would still need Microbiology and Math, get a job as an LVN and then take a night class in the 2 remaining pre-requisites and any co-requisite classes and then in the Fall, apply to the LVN to RN Program which would also give me time to study and take the TEAS test as well. The Texas program, compared to the Iowa program, just seems a little bit complicated. I'm taking classes (pre-reqs) that they don't teach in their program and I'm having to use my time and money to get those classes for the Nursing dept. to use towards my eligibility for acceptance into the LVN/RN program. Now, this wouldn't be so bad if I knew I would be accepted into that LVN/RN program which would be starting in Fall 2011 and I'd finish in May of 2012. Now compare that with Iowa. I would start in the Fall of 2009 and finish in August of 2011. Almost a year's difference. Plus I would not have to take any of those Pre-reqs that Texas requests because they are offered in Iowa's curriculum. The one pre-requisite for every student at Iowa though is taking a Nursing Assistant Certificate Progam over the Summer. 2 days a week at 6 hours a day and in 2 months, you have a Nursing Assistant Certificate before you even enter into Iowa's RN Program. Iowa just seems to have a very logical system set up. Having students go through a 2 month Nursing Assistant program I think is a great way for someone to get right into what nursing is all about and get a taste of what their chosen career path is going to be, plus you could use that Nursing Assistant Certificate as a means to work on weekends maybe and make some money during the school year. I have a 2 year Iowa RN program vs a Texas LVN program with the "possibility" of getting into Texas' LVN/RN program a year after graduation, in the Fall of 2011. The RN is my goal. What if I don't get accepted into Texas' RN classes in the Fall of 2011 or the Fall of 2012, 2013, etc. I think at that point, I would be kicking myself for not taking Iowa's 2 year program and have that RN degree under my belt. If I had more of a guarantee of being accepted in Texas, I could do this, but I feel that the Nursing field is just getting more and more competitive as people change careers into a field that is more secure than others. I have to do this for myself and as much as I want to stay in Texas, my chances for what "I" want are much better in Iowa. With the exception of getting my LVN in Texas and then getting into an online LVN to RN program, then I would look into that seriously. I do have a close friend that graduated from the same school in Texas as an LVN and then went online to get her RN degree, passed the RN Boards and got a very nice job in Texas as an RN. I have not really looked into the Online thing, but that may be the "only" thing that would keep me in Texas and close to my family. I really appreciate all of the advice that I have received because I feel it's been fair and unbiased and you don't always get that from friends or family and this website and forum are just excellent. I'm glad I found it and it has been very informative and useful. Thank you.
  10. Jimmydaves

    Help me decide between 2 Nursing schools

    All of you have been so helpful and I appreciate you taking the time to give some good advice. It's hard to ask a family member this question because they of course want you to stay close by. I know that if I were to stay in Texas, that getting into an LVN to RN program is going to be difficult even if I have all the pre-requisites and everything lined up. It seems that the nursing profession and education is pretty competitive and just the thought of having to wait a minimum of a year before I can even apply to the LVN to RN Program doesn't fit well with me. I was wanting to apply to the same school where I'd be doing the LVN training, but what if I don't get into their LVN/RN program the next year or the year after that or the year after that? That would be frustrating. I have a good friend who went to the same school 10 years ago for the LVN Program and after that she got her RN training online and her license and Associates degree and then got a great RN job as well. So that's been an option I've been thinking about but I really don't know how you all feel about the online option. The other question I had was: If I were to get my training as an RN in Iowa and I finished and graduated, if I wanted to go back to Texas and practice, should I take my NCLEX in Iowa or wait and take it in Texas? From reading the Texas BON web page, I would have to get re-certified in Texas and take a test and get certified again as an RN for Texas. It seems like the market is healthy here, but I did another internet search with respect to the number of job openings within 30 miles of where my familiy lives and my hometown in Texas and for LVN/LPN's there were about 16 posts and for RN there were about 160 posts. I know going to Iowa would disappoint my parents who are elderly and my dad is disabled, but they're the only ones who are telling me to stay and everyone else, personally and professionally are telling me to definitely go for the RN school.
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    Help me decide between 2 Nursing schools

    Thanks for the input so far, I have really learned so much and it has helped me quite a bit. I looked up the pass rates at 2 nursing programs I've been accepted at and the Iowa RN program Pass rate for the past 4 years has been 82, 82, 69, 77. Not overly impressive but not bad. The Texas School's RN Pass rate was between 85 to 99 percent for the past 4 years and their LVN Pass rate was in the upper 90's for those 4 years. My family lives in Texas and I was born and raised here and it's a hard decision. I would like to spend my time in Texas because they are elderly but after looking at current job openings in my area, there are 5 times as many openings for RN's as LVN's. I also happen to be in my 40's and I feel that Nursing will be the career that I want to be in from this point to my retirement. I am already in the medical field but in a technical aspect. It's a good job, good pay, but so specialized that I have to go where the jobs are instead living where I want to and have jobs available. I only talked to those 2 RN nursing grads who complained about not being ready for the NCLEX boards. I looked on Craigslist for students who might be selling books at a discount and found two and in the process I asked them what their thoughts were about this particular school they went to in Iowa and one of them was negative in the fact that she did not feel prepared at the end of 2 years to take the Iowa Boards. The other graduate was more "iffy" like "yeah, it was ok, but not great" so I don't know what other way to find out "honest" information about this school. I do like the idea of having an Associates degree in nursing and being an RN after 2 years and not having to worry about completing the Texas LVN Program and then waiting a year and then applying and not getting accepted for their LVN to RN Program. I have the option of doing what a couple of other people I know have done and that is to get their LVN certificate and then finish their RN training online. I know someone who did this and got a very nice RN Position, so that's an option. The other main difference between the Iowa and Texas school (and this might give away the name of the school in Iowa even though I'm trying to be confidential LOL). But in the Iowa RN program, during the summer before the Fall start date, you are required to take a Nursing Assistant Certificate Program for 2 months and that is main pre-requisite. Now I personally think this is a great idea. Not only do you get a taste of what nursing life is going to be but at the end of the Summer, you have a Nursing Assistant Certificate and you could work as a CNA on weekends while you go to school. The other major issue is that the Pre-requisites that I will be required to have for the Texas RN program are offered in the Iowa Program's curriculum. For Example, the Texas RN program requires Anatomy I &II, Microbiology and College Math as Pre-requisites. So even though I've been accepted into the Texas LVN Program, I am spending this Summer taking both Anatomy classes. Then after LVN graduation, I will look for a job while I take Micro and Math at night so that I will have all 4 Pre-reqs by the time the LVN to RN Program comes around the next fall. The Iowa RN program has Anatomy I and II and Microbiology as part of their Curriculum! I wouldn't have to spend time and money getting those classes done on my own time, they would be part of the classroom curriculum. I think that's great. So instead of spending this summer in Texas taking these Anatomy classes (which I've already taken, but are now over 5 years old), I can spend the summer taking the Nursing Assistant training. And then I don't have to worry about any other pre-reqs since they are part of the curriculum. I think I may have been offered accepted into both of these programs because I am already in the medical field and went to a 2 year school and have 5 years experience and passed that program and passed the boards as well, so they probably assumed that I could handle this program too. Either way, I have to jump on one ship or another because I'm going to run into a timing issue and really have to make a decision right after Memorial day. It's too late for me to look into other programs here in Texas beause the deadline for most of these programs was either Feb or March. My parents of course want me to stay in Texas but everyone else has told me to go for it at the Iowa program. I mean, if I'm going by a student or two who didn't pass the Iowa boards twice, is that the program's fault or the student's issue? Aren't there classes, books, study groups that people can get into to prepare for the Nursing Boards? You will always run into a disgruntled student or employee but that doesn't necessarily mean the school or the job is a bad one.
  12. Hey Everyone: First post! I need some advice and guidance. I have been accepted into two Nursing programs in 2 different states. One in Iowa and one in Texas. The nursing program in Texas is an LVN program and the one in Iowa is an RN Program. I would like to be an RN and that is my goal. The RN Program in Iowa seems very well put together as far as curriculum (for instance, pre-requisites are in the curriculum), but I've heard some negative feedback from RN graduates. Some have said they didn't feel prepared for the NCLEX and failed the first 2 attempts. The LVN Program in Texas is in my hometown and has an excellent reputation. I have to take Pre-requisites to get into their RN Program. These same pre-requisites are offered in Iowa's RN Program. I'm not sure which program to pursue. I would spend a year at Texas with their LVN program, then have to wait a year while I get the remainder of my pre-requisites and work as an LVN and then apply for their LVN to RN Program in the fall, so it might take me at minimum 3 years from now to become an RN In Iowa's program, I would enter as an RN student and graduate in August 2011 as RN with an Associates Degree. With Texas, the very soonest I could finish any RN degree would be May of 2012. My LVN training would be from August 2009 to August 2010, then a year off to take care of pre-requisites, then apply to the LVN to RN Program. With Iowa's RN Program, I start and finish as an RN. With Texas, I start as an LVN and then finish that and then reapply to finish as an RN. Iowa is a 2 year program and I don't have to worry about waiting lists or being accpted. With Texas, what if I don't get accepted into their LVN to RN program when I apply for it? What if I have to wait another year and still no guarantee of acceptance. That's what's holding me back from the Texas LVN Program. While I believe that Texas has the better training, Iowa has the RN program. I'm going to be new to nursing and I was wondering, if I went with Iowa, how would that affect me working in Texas? Would I have to do additional training to be licensed in Texas? I would prefer Texas as far as location and family but would be very disappointed to go through the LVN program and then not get accepted into their RN program. With Iowa, I would not have to worry about that. What would you do? If Texas was the place you would eventually want to end up, but Iowa has accepted you into their RN Program? Please let me know what you think. Thanks!