Lexnursingstudent

i also know some nursing instructors who are on antidepressants. that is a biggie to keep in mind. there are a lot of people all around us who are on psychotropic drug----oh yea honey! Why do you think that college instructors will not let you do the eye assessment part on them. HUH???????????? See, and if they don't quit failing so many students, they will be out of a job. Because the government, along with the nurse VISA, will outsource their job to some educational internet site to read the materials and take online exams. I am surprised that the university hasn't figured this one out yet. There does not need to be an instructor live lecturing to nursing students about growth and development, a student can read the information, do papers, and take online exams, that would save the university a lot of money. A lot of university are going this route, it is just a matter of time. the engaging part of clinical and labs are necessary though to get the training to be a nurse, but the lecturing part, just think of the thousands of dollars the university could save.

Some nursing professor are better than others. When this new Visa gets signed by the president to bring in outsource nurses from other countries to fill the shortage, not only will nurses here (US graduates) will have to take a lower paying job-because of the competition, ..but..nursing professors will lose their jobs. Case in point. There are some that legitimately fail nursing. There are some students who are picked on. There are students who bribe the professors---oh yea!!!! There are some student's parents who pay the president of the college/university--bribe. There are some students who hang with the instructors in their offices and the instructors actually hint to them as to what questions will be on the exams. There are some students who CHEAT!!!! on exams, in one form or another. EX: Knowing someone that works as a custodian and when cleaning the offices of the professors, get copies of the exam and give it to students. Even the custodian is making under the table money. There are some instructors who just do not like certain students, and this is really a shame, perhaps these are the area in nursing school to look out for things like discrimination-at best-otherwise it is hard to prove. Just go to class, participate when asked to, keep your mouth shut, act appreciative, document every move the instructor does, and says, record everything, for later defense, or studying, or exam quesitons. hey, get this we just had an instructor tell us oh, well if I give you different figures compared to the book, then use the book figures. now, which is it lady, for god sake, we are spending 10 grand a semester here. come on, and the text is ancient, where is the real updated stuff---makes a person wonder,, if some of the nursing professors really have any business teaching. any way, just go to class, keep y our mouth shut, study, smile, do not study with a study group if you make A's and B's. do you fair share of the work in a group project, always look clean, dressed neat when doing a presentation on stage. do not, i repeat do not, talk about your personal life to the instructors, i don't care if they do ask you, and you feel that you have to give information, if so, then tell a lawyer, your personal life may not have anything to do with you being a college or university student, you are not a nurse yet!!!!!!!!!!!!! get what i mean, and frankly it is none of their business, they ran a criminal background check on you, that is all they are entitled too---period, just keep your mouth shut in the classroom setting, the person sitting next to you may be failing, and you do not want the instructors to associate you with the failures.

How many medical errors have you made in you nursing profession? Tell us all that. How many time have you called off from work sick and it was a lie, and knowing you were creating a hardship on your fellow nurses, and there were people who needed you. How many time have you lied on a nurse report? Did you score 100% in your medication calculations? I do all the time. Do you? No, of course you don't, and that leads to nurses making med errors, FACT!!!

Why what kind of a workplace do you work in? A place where there is a lot of burned out nurses, a place that is short staffed etc....... I can speak for a lot of nursing students all across the country, of all cultures!!!!!! who are smarter than a lot of the nurses in the hospitals today. Teaching is not like it used to be. Well, there are even some nurses who are working in the hospitals who never took Pharmacology. There are nurses working in the hospital who never were required to do a research paper. Yea, RESEARCH!!! Hey, the world of nursing being trained is changing out here. Do not bash confident graduating nursing students, they are smart and will land lots of positions, and will be pushing out the 2 yr positions. Just because we are coming out after you, it only means we are fresh and trained for whatever, like just about everything. Yea, there might be a first time for a certain type of medical incident to experience, but that is for every nurse, no nurse before me has experienced it all, but I guess you seem to think so. Tell me one thing that I can expect not to know when I start my first day as a new graduate nurse? :chuckle

Well, so what. I believe in being perfect the first time. And don't tell me that there is everything I should learn from you. It goes both ways, there will be things experienced nurses will learn from new grads, and that goes for nurse managers as well. Research where it says that 4 year is considered a professions degree versus a 2 yr RN. I did not say that I had a problem with a 2 yr, now did I? No I did not!! You are wrong for saying that I said that in front of everybody, and you own me an apology. I have a right to speak my peace on this web site just as much as anyone. And I do not have to bandwagon. 2 year RN do not graduate with the full scope of practice as a 4 year, oh yes, wait a minute, a 4 year where I go leads right into the masters and Phd and nurse practitioner, and in this 4 year program we nursing students are being trained at a higher skill level. So, don't tell me that a 2 yr RN will not have to step aside ( it will be done becuase 4 yr students are trained in leadership skills) and let the 4 yr do it, because the 4 yr RN will have more training , a larger scope of practice say for instance in health promotion etc....... We also learn more on the theory behind nursing practice, and excuse me, but that is so very important to every nursing skill provided to any patient. Do you think that a doctor makes decisions just because? No, a doctors decision is based of scientific as well. The advantages to the BSN education are a broader educational base in the general studies, which is for decision making, and if the nurse is planning further education--which I am planning on doing. Another another is the additional courses, which allow the BSN RN opportunities for access to employment positions often not available to RNs with an ADN education. Additionally, some health care facilities and systems are requiring or at least preferring that all RNs in a supervisory position have a BSN or higher degree. Therefore, the BSN RN has a grearter opportunity to advance their career than an ADN RN. So, unless you want to tell all my instructors who have Phd in nursing, you will get a big suprise Yea, let's keep this "real" and peaceful, I am not attacking anybody, and I refuse to bandwagon with a few 2 yr RN who are not as educated as me in nursing. When I graduate, if it comes between me as a 4 yr RN and a 2 yr RN, yea, that is right , I will get the job.

no, like i said a few days ago, nursing is not going to get any special attention. saving the economy of the US is, whatever it takes. coal miners are just as important to the economy as much as nurses are. without coal miners there would be no nurses, so attention to the coal miners will come first. that only makes sense, right? look, we all know that nursing is not a promising job, and the money that we have to spend to go to a 4 year university is outrages, so yes the money stimulus will go to the universities with the BA programs, and everything will be based on the level of education.

No not of course not when applying for a position. And I not have bad beliefs / attitudes. That is what you call it, look behind you, is that all the better you could come up with.

no not yet. I already have a job when I graduate, making $30.00 hr. my sister is an RN for the Government, and I have already met with the safety engineers and I have a job waiting for me. She does the hiring and scheduling. I am so excited. She and another retired Army nurse spits the 24 hour days. 12/12. Sundays off. Only when needed. And it is a great job. I am going to just love it. I better not have to jump hoot and holler either, I will go to HR one time and one time only. Then from there, watch for things like discrimination hire.

yea :wink2: celebration time.:chuckle

I am not beating up the nurse manager, thank you very much for you insensitivity, and false accusation!! I am not that type of a person, and before you go accusing me, sounds like you are a professional at business hiring. I was not iquiring about your expertise perhaps in another are than nursing. Yes, maybe they NM ought to take a pay cut as well, it does not take 6 MN (one for each floor) to hire nurses to fill a hospital. Not more than it takes to hire someone with 3 years experience for the ICU compared to a new graduate, becuase they are training us really well here at the university, and there are a lot of us who are a lot more smarter than some nurses in the hospital now. Yes, that is right, we are being taught and are getting hands on the most updated nursing concepts and training there is. So, take that to your NM. We are good trained nurses while we are in college, and if anybody gives me a hard time as a new grad, I call that bullying, and will file a harassment law suit. Trust me!!! MN make too much money!!!!!

Sounds great, if you can make an A!!!! B second, and C if not possible to make a B or an A.

I am being advised that when I graduate I can walk right into a RN position. Why am I seeing that I may have to hound or beg the HR for a position? I feel that the more you jump, hoot and holler in HR face, the more they laugh and get their thrills of saying "nothing yet, sorry". Maybe NM should be taken out of the picture all together. Why can't the director of nursing do all the hiring like in the old days. To me it is crazy to believe that I will have to beg for a RN position. Am I being ignorant about some fact here in nursing? If this is so, then I will have a professional do my resume, betcha dollar bottom I will. Now, I am scared of paying all this money for a degree and possibly may have to look at begging for a job. No way not me!!!!! Thumbs down on that.

what do you do for "daily" exercise? A 1/2 to 1 hour work out is a must. This should build up you energy! Have to keep it going. Check with your doctor to see what exercise you can tolerate first. Then, you must drink the daily recommended amount of water to keep healthy bowel movements. You know this stuff! Right? Okay, dear then get your sleep. 7-8 hour of sleep every day. Address your activity and exercise, sleep patterns and nutritional functions. Do you eat plenty of vegs and fruits? For me to cut out all the fats and sugars and concentrating on eating vegs and fruits---wholes of course----was hard for me to get used to. So, what I do is even if I look at a bananna, and think my gosh, eat the whole thing, I take two bites and dispose the rest, some with an apple, I take a few bites and forget the rest, and then go for the water. I know it is wasteful, but I just do not have the time to cut everything up. I am just too busy for that. If you are busy too, make everything adjust to you!!! Nutrition, exercise and sleep. I actually have lost a lot of weight. My favorite is my figuring out that I do take time to make my own Lattes now, like Starbucks, and you could do the same too. There is nothing wrong with a healthy structured schedule for yourself. In nursing school I have a very structure schedule for classes and notes, and places to be for clinicals. So, you can have a structured day too, a healthy one. What about vit and min supplements? Honey, I am 47 trying to nursing school, and have a 23 year old son, and in a non-marriage relationship, which is a taxi life for me, marriage would be so much better. Either married or single, women live longer, not a taxing skivish lifestyle. You know what I mean. Making things simple in your life on a daily basis, could be dressing the kids as simple as possible, but appropiately, do you have a mother or mother-in-law that can help, church women possible. I get the feeling that you need a simple life, to focus more, think of all your time during the day from interacting with your children, your husband, going to work and TIME FOR YOURSELF as therapeutic ONLY. Yea, the therapeutic living style. I did not have 3 children, one took enough enery out of me. I am with you 110% in you mental and physical well being. I have to go to class for now. It is early and I was glad to see that you are confident. Don't let that confidence in yourself down. Take a deep breath for today, one day at a time, therapeutic living, you, your children and your husband. Later girl....you can do this thing.

how? dear how are you learning about ADD? Listen to me! Go to work confident tomorrow.

Look, make sure you keep documentation of everything #1 You have three children. Does your husband do his share of the rearing the children? Or is he a male pig? Seriously. Men these days are not like the men our fathers were or are. You know where I am coming from. Listen to me. Women today do everything, especially when a man is around. Now, I am not suggesting anything here, like a divorce or whatever. I am just saying that if there is anyway you can really search within yourself and see why you are anxious; etc.....then address it! ARE you getting the recommended, proper amount of sleep. As an adult you should be getting plenty, and NOT DOING EVERYTHING. Is the husband depressed or anxious? You are a nurse, you know all the Gordon 11 funtions. Take yourself through them. I waa really concerned about you stating that you were being told at work that peers were saying things ie....hard to come to......are you inquiring who is saying what about you? LIBEL!!!! If you have to walk around with a schedule at work, then do it. I do agree, there should be no medication errors. When I attend nursing college, I have to score 100% on all my med math. The university do not graduate anyone who makes med math errors. I have a sneaky suspicion that you are doing all the work in your household, and your husband is getting bu with laziness. Because, a mother of three who is married, and claims to be depressed, and anxious is a sure sign of something wrong on the home-front. Know what I mean. Yes, ask your doctor about disability. Doctors can refer clients to attorneys, and vice versa. #1 can you work night shift. I know that night shift is hard for some people. Have your husband drop off and pick up the children from day care. When you get home of a morning, go straight to bed. Hubby and kids should already be gone. What is his shift? I am just trying to think of a way to get you calmed down. I feel that no doubt, you need a break from being mommy so much and not enough daddy input. post me again. I am here studying

Those who have already been accepted into NHTI by notice of letter says that the one who have not received an acceptance letter, and so now students are wanting to call admissions should brace themselves and expect a letter of regret. Nursing colleges ALWAYS notify FIRST the one that have been accepted, THEN the ones who were not accepted SECOND. Don't call the admissions office and ask where your letter is, what is that going to get you? Absolutely nothing, they have to notify applicants in writing of decisions.

never apply to just one nursing. That is putting all your eggs in one basket! It is hard to get into nursing. Some are lucky to get in the first time, but not so much any more. And I just wanted to mention something else, nursing colleges DO NOT look at GPA, they will accept a 2.5 just as quick as a 4.0 student.

I went back up and reread your post. If this were me, I would consult with an attorney if I was fired to make sure that I was fired as a result of my condition, make sure your doctor has this documented as well. You have a lot to tend to at home. See what your doctor and attorney can come up with, especially if your condition is going to cost you your nursing position, your career.

mom LPN with 3 children, You may want to consult an attorney. Go back to your doctor if you get fired. Make sure you are getting fired for you ADD, and not something else, because you will not have a case. Get temporary disability if you can get relieved as a result of your ADD, and take RN online classes as a part of your rehabilitation, which could probably be paid for my the government. This way the kids won't catch all those colds from the day care center. You may though want to still take them there once in awhile for the social interaction, but then again the YMCA is a great place too, and you can go with your children, and is usually for free!!! Like swimming lessons, yea, kids love swimming. only suggestions

Is this your first time to apply for nursing school?

:yeah:I hope that everyone who read my recent post, is uplifted. Get a solid rock to stand on. Get creative:typing Start your own RN practice. Think of where you can offer your services that will include volunteer work as well. Here is a good suggestion. Go to the grocery store with in mind of a family of 3.......Mother, Father and child. Make up a shopping list that would feed the whole family for one week, this will include the cost! which is one of the attractive devices to get business. ( also do it for larger families) And create meals according to whatever circumstances demand such as, the father's normal BMI, the mother's and the child's. Include exercise for each. An RN can make up a whole one week package deal such as this which would help an RN to establish a great business. A good thing to include would be growth and development concerns of the child-right foods, all the Gordon functions, and for mom and dad too. See, I am trying to help someone here today to not get discouraged about not finding a job at a hospital. RN's (4yrs) are going to have to be really creative. Advertising for elder home visits, to put them through an exercise, and help them take their medications is a good business service. Just get up :typingand get more creative than the hoo-hum waiting for the HR department to call. Graduated RN's you have the training, not just to work in a hospital, but to go to town hall, and apply for a private duty nursing business, design the business how you want, and GO!!!!! make some money, make a living. If this is all the hospital is doing to you , just think, most of the people are outside the hospitals. Go find people out in the public that want you to be their nurse. :wink2: or a male nurse. GOOD LUCK!!!

Think about it! Nursing will not escape layoffs. Nursing may be more less the last to experience layoffs, but it is inevitable. Hospitals are businesses, and if the WIGS need to cut, it will be a sect of nurses to make a quick gain into their pockets. Oh yes indeed!!! I really feel confident in my decision for myself to double major. I will also get advanced training in gerontological nursing. The baby boom industry is just around the corner. Within the next 20 years. But I think for a good nursing career, everyone is going to have to be a little more creative in securing a nursing position. Opening a private RN practice for the elder is a great idea. To me it is anyway. Go to the nursing homes and have your name added to the private duty list. One might be surprised at how many families perfer a pvt duty RN to care for their loved ones. Go to the Senior Citizens Center, and volunteer there. Wealthy family members send their elder parent there for ADL and QOL--keep them active. And get to know the families of the elderly, and build self community status. Those family members are likely to want a private duty nurse for their elder parents. Healthy People 2010 stats look very good. HP 2020 is beginning. People are living longer lives, becuase of advanced medicine that maintains a chronic disordered life, well into 80 years of age. And from here on out the stats will look even better. So, really prepare for low census to send home a lot more nurses. Get another degree along with nursing, like classes, certificaitons and hands on experience with the elderly. A degree in PT would be a good addition to nursing, that way one could care for the elder in their home plus be a licensed PT. I don't know what else to say, except that for me personally, after this spring semester is over with, (I am in the precompteplation phase) I will search all my options, interest, look at all the classes I have ALREADY taken, (besides nursing classes) and applying them to another degree. I want to be ahead of this upcoming playoff game of layoffs and low census situations that is going to hit, so that I will not sink. Hey, I did a research paper on Adult Developmental life changes, and one change in the future of an adult is that they will change jobs about every five years, and adults move a lot too-about every five years as well. Get buckled up real good!! Look for other careers too like, paid positions in churches, like offer a service to a certain age group for health nutrition. One might be suprised!!! There are a lot of people that go to church on Sundays. That is just a suggestion. Here again, with somthing like that, you could have your own business, just think of all the tax incentive!!! Do a local radio talk on nutrition, or safety for school-age children, and create an advertising for a business of an RN Health Promotion Program. Advertise for the whole family too. Start a private business. People are more oriented to personal treatment and attention these days. People are becoming more self center about their health. It is like a helath competion. I can see myself flying with a idea like this upon my graduaiton. When clients are established, then offer a free health prevention plan, and watch the number of clients soar. People who are down and out, make negative choices in life, feed off of others ( which would be an RN of course becuase they are trained to address everything about the human body and life) for surviving. People definetly need nursing. I always thought that is would be nice that when I graduate, to specialize in breastfeeding. I just had this in one of my nursing classes. And new mothers need all the help they can get to BF for a year. That would be a great service to add to a private business. I just sit an listen to myself a lot, and I think about all the different ways I will be helping people when I graduate. Do not get stuck in a rut waiting on a hospital to call you for a position. EXPLORE everything that you learned in nursing school, and to explore lay out all of your nursing college class informaiton, assignments, special projects etc...so that something might JUMP OUT at you. Put that mind to work and start creating ways to be a great RN.

low census do send RNs home early from their shifts. One is going to have to continue further in education, goes as high as you can in nursing; like Nurse Practioner, or Phd to teach, or just go get a job in the medical records department, and make somewhat decent money, GOOD BENIFITS, be a professional student, go to law school, you can open your own business, and make good money. My fiance make good money being a lawyer, if the nursing school does not quit flunking just about everybody, then I am going to apply for law school. His schedule is sweet, he has a sole business, does a lot of his work at home, and is in court everyday with cases, and he travels some, to other nearby counties. I am telling you, go get another degree other than nursing, if you don't plan on getting a higher degree in nursing. Technology and webbing is BIG BUCKS. Personally, I will finish my nursing, and go to law school, and then.....probably something else. I did a research paper for my Developmental Psychology class on how many different jobs a person will have in their lifetime. It is really suprising, but people move a lot, change career a lot...etc..... So, just keep going and get all you can get. Hopefully, you will find an RN job, but I promise you, I know we choose to be nurses because we want to take care of people, but there are people getting RN positions, who became nurses, not becuase they wanted to take care of people at on a humane level, but because they wanted a degree in something so that they could always have a job, and that is so sad too. But, with in the South, the RN trade schools uprising, everybody is going to nurisng school, it is going to have to be that you go for a second career, and this is for everyone who reads this. Take one day at a time, explore other options, other careers. Surely, you will get an RN position. But when you do get that RN position, start immediately on preparing for another career. Sorry, but it is an eye opener if an RN cannot find a job, goes home early w/o pay etc....or a hospital closes. Go higher and higher and higher.

And one more thing, I heard as a third party listener, that you have to know someone ( and these people were talking about a specific hospital, but I will not say) to get hired there. It is like they take you applicaiton and then when you walk out the HR door, they more less put it in a big stack, and when nurse manager! go through the stack, they pick who they want, and generally it is someone they know. Then, I head these "two" people say this is why we are loosing nursing students from our state. So, there you have it. Double major!!!!! There are also some nursing homes here where I am that only have LPN's, no more RN's, and my next clinicals are in a nursing home, figure that one out, I know, Iwill take care of the elder in a hospital. But, I have a friend who is in an LPN program, and they are training the LPN's and preparing them so extensively, that they could do just about anything an RN can do. In Georiga, the first RN technical training program is opening, so there to become an RN, will be a trade, not a professional degree, and the cost is much, much cheaper. And the trade RN will be hired just the same as a 2 yr or 4 yr RN. (part of the stimulus package?) Yes, for the south, for educaitonal stimulus package, where there is a larger part of the populaiton of the United States, to "train" students through a trade educational program. My sister is an RN and she makes 28.00 in a nursing home in WV, and she is not the DON, just like a charge nurse that oversees the whole facility. In WV, in a certain northern panhandle city, the hospital is very picky who they hire, and it is hard to get on. A "Click" thing is going on there that involves HR. Don't stop with your 4yr, go do something else.

I read about lay-offs the other day. Does anyone know if there has been any lay-offs in any hospitals. I know of one hospital in a nearby state that is sending nurses, RN's home early from their shifts because of low census.