Chilenurse

Hi from Frankfurt/Germany same here. This month is pretty bad. I send home between 2-8 kids and for me that is a lot!!! They come sick to School here!! The winter is very ruff this year, so no wonder every body got sick. In January I had to write a letter (email to the teacher and they sen to the class rep and they sent to all) to K to 5, because so many sick in school. We have to 12, but I´m still waiting a bit to go to all school. I´m, after almost 7 years beeing a SN, very happy:up:. But thouse days.......................... On the other side .......very few head lices since September:yeah: Please answer me 1 question. What does :VENT means?? Sorry, no idea!! Thanks Monica RN Frankfurt/Germany

Hi I`m writing from Germany and I just saw your request today. You still want some pictures or is it to late now? Just let me know and I would send you some pics me at school. Greetings from Frankfurt and Happy Eastern Monica

Hi My opinion is, we not doing anything wrong. It is just sometimes (actually mostly of the time) very hard to make the right desicion. Should we or should`nt we sent the child home!! I have K-12. I try to talk to the children first, but some of them don´t want to and just want to go home. My policy in my school is, I just let the children home if the the parents agree on the phone (85% they do). If I can´t rich them, the child has to stay. My frecuent flyers and "frecuent go homers"- that is a very delicated story. What I have learnt in my 5 yeras of schoolnursing is, to send just "sick " kids home. Jeanine wrote it. BUT, for me and my school, it doesn´t work 100%. Sometimes I know the student is not sick, no fever, no broken bone, nothing I can really see. Just a : I really don´t fell good!!!!!!!!!!!!But because he bla bla me, I call parents. It is so hard to make the right decision with this. The subject:teacher I love them , and sometimes I can send them to the moon. I guess it is a problem world wide. I work in a "kind of private school with 950 students. I´m the only nurse. (In Germany actually there are NO SCHOOLNURSES_THEY DO NOT EXCIST) I don´t have any help from nobody. Even all the fotocopys, letters, distribution of the letters, and all other things- I have to to by myself. I don´t want to complain. But sometimes:madface: And then I have beatifull days when kids and parents are so thankfull. Today I received a email form a mother who was very thanksfull because I took care about the 16 yeras old daughter, when she had a pretty long seizure, and felt down from the chair!!!!!!!!! 2 times before I asked the mother and that girl to sent me information about her seizure (teacher informed me last year). Nothing! Then the seizure happen. Still nothing. Today a email to say thankyou, but still -NO INFORMATION ABOUT HER CONDITION. I sent another email. So, I´m wrong? Schoolnurses all over, we have the some things to deal every day all over the world. This list is so helpfull. To all of you a big hug. Thanks for sharing every day. Wish you all nice holidays. I have 5 more weeks to go and then I will go to Chicago for 1 week and from there I will fly to my home country: CHILE for another 3 weeks. (The only concern I have-it is winter there--brrrrr) Last year almost this time I went to NY to the NASN Conference. This year I can`t make it to Nashville. To far away from Germany and my school would go grazy if I would ask again. Greetings form Frankfurt/Germany to all of you Monica

I was surpriced last week to read your thread. I can´t tell much. But in my school K-12 it`s not like that. And if they get sick with sick leave they don´t tell me, teachers have a speciall phonenumber they have to use. We have around 115 teachers, but they don´t come that much to me. Ca.4-5 a week? In wintertime much more. Greetings from Germany .

In this 4 years as a School Nurse I had this happen at least 2 times. First time I felt very guilty, but now I know that it is very difficult sometimes by kids to see a fracture right away and even on x-ray sometimes they see it later. The most important is to ice it, tell him or her to come back if it get worser or even go for a x-ray if necessary. Mostly of the times if I`m unsure I just write a little note for the parents. Up to them if they take them to the doc or not. Greetings from Germany

I agree to all the others. I never would send a kid home without asking the parents before, special after this kind of happenig. After they now the situation and I would tell them all the risk, then I don`t think they would agree to put them child on any bus. Greetings from Germany

I have been an R.N. since 1984 and a school nurse since September 2002. Before I did 5J Surgery/Orthopedic, 6J Emergency room, 1J Heart-clinic, 5J Private Nursing Service. I never worked with Ped. But I can say the experience at the Emergency room helped me a lot. Now I really don`t want to miss beeing a School Nurse. Greetings from Germany

Hi, in my school I`m alone at all. So nobody to help or substitute. 2 years ago I was 4 weeks out (sick leave) because of a operation myself. That time the school ask me to look for somebody, what I did. It was a coleger from my old work in the hospital. She replaced me for 2 weeks. The other 2 weeks was nobody here. When I`m sick now, no Nurse at school!!! Since 2 years I get all infects we can get. I´m really embaresed, because it`s pretty often. But now, with 42 years, I realiced that I have to take care about my self to. So if I have to stay home I do!!! Here in Germany the health system is different then in the States. We do not have just a certain days of sick leave. Can be any number of days, but always after 3 days we need to bring the medical certificate from the doc. And if you are a mother, you have 4 days sick leave for each child with any trouble. Beside that you can take 10 more days (if child under 14 years), but then the salary is less, but you get it back from you health insurance. Both cases just if both parents work. So, I guess not big different between the countries with this subject! Greetings from Frankfurt

Very interesting article. That would be good to translate and pass it to the germans authoroty. Here in Germany we do not have School nurse They just not exist! Just in very few private schools we have RN (or with pediatrician speciality), but without a specialisation "School Nurse ". Every single day I`m just surprice how Schools handel it, because since I`m working as a School Nurse I do have plenty of work. Greetings from Germany

Hi, we do not have school nurses in Germany. I`m one, but my school is a private one and some private they do have (not all). But almost all german people does`nt know and are very surpriced when I tell them what I do. Normally the sick or injured children have to go or to the teacher or to the secretary and they call mommys or the ambulance (much more often then what we would do ). Since 3 years I do this and I just love it. Of course I do have each day many frequent f. If I would`nt read all the web sides from "allnurses" I do not know what I would do. It help me a lot to see that by you "NURSES in the States", the problems are the same. My biggest frustration here in this 3 years is, that in my school I`m alone(nobody with me and no help from nobody). And I do not get much information whats going on at school and that is veeeeeeeeeery frusti !!!!!!!!!!Believe me. The teachers, the office, the deputty head from primary and secondary , nobody think much about "passing information" to the school nurse. Without all the websites and all the discussions online I will be lost! Thanks to "ALL OF YOU". With you and you help online I`m super happy. Greetings Chilenurse

Martha, thanks for showing us this very interesting articles(websides). I read some of them. Greetings from Germany

Send me your email and I can send you my form. Greetings from Germany

Martha, would like to fill this out, but I`m in Germany and I guess it`s not helping you. Greetings from Frankfurt

I`m in my second year as a School Nurse and in the beginning I really had the same question. Should I or shouldn`t I take children with my car. After I talked to many poeple I decided not to do it. I don`t want to have all my life a bad councient or even worser because I tranporteded a kid to the hospital and then some bad happen. I really too afraid. If a kid get hurt really bad I will allways call the parents or then the ambulance. Even if I would have a car-insurance for transportation I woun`t do it. Here in Germany we have pretty good insurance for everything, but I prefer to go trouble out of the way. Good luck!

That was a very good information you gave me. Thanks again. Now I found some companys and I`m in touch with 3. So, hopefully my school will agree to buy some softwork for the school. Greetings from Germany