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I know how you feel. It has taken me years to be able to accept that our country is very rapidly becoming a fascist state. It is happening in ALL areas. Before the next election another "event" will happen to justify marshal law and attacking Iran. There are right now 600 FEMA concentration camps ready and waiting in every major city in the U.S. Google it for yourself. This is the tip of the iceberg. For all who will angrily deny this, maybe you will believe when you are being taken away on a train.

I have not read all of this thread so forgive me if this is redundant. I have found clear evidence that vaccines are dangerous, as they actually cause disease, not prevent it: i.e. gulf war syndrome. In particular the bird flu like HIV was created by the CDC to wipe out as many people as possible.

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. It took me years to overcome my shock from discovering the depth of malevolence in the corporate agenda. But I finally have realized beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is in fact a deliberate and very well orchestrated conspiracy by a small group of elite. The worst of it is that the medical system is only one area being taken over. Make no mistake that they (yes the Man) will not stop until they have control of the whole world! It is called the New World Order and it is not a fairy tale. You can research it for yourself as I have. Marshal law will be declaired very soon unless we the people wake up NOW and stop them. For those who flame me, I forgive you because I understand how you feel. "If the people knew what we have done, they would chase us down the street and lynch us." -George H.W. Bush (senior)

uhhh...pardon me, but who ever said "nurses are automatons who never question and "just push drugs for the man""? I certainly didn't and certainly don't think so. There are clearly many nurses who are well aware of what is going on, think critically, and make decisions accordingly. There are obviously, however quite a few who are equally unaware of what is going on, or who know but are in denial or agreement with it. For the latter group I double dare you to watch these brief videos that I just found on exactly what my OP was about. They are fascinating and terrifying at the same time. I am not faulting anyone. I think you nurses have an extremely tough job and I admire you for what you are doing. http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/video/110707.htm http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/video/110707.htm

I appreciate your sincere encouraging advice. Thanks. Sounds like you work at a great place. I have to say again (4th time now) that, as in my OP, "I feel that the western allopathic way of surgery/drugs is ........................sometimes needed in cases of trauma etc.)" Also I am not touting herbal remedies either (although I think they are generally safer). I'm just concerned about the over and misuse of pharm drugs and surgery mainly for profit. And FDA approval means nothing! The FDA is controlled by pharm corps! If the FDA cared about our health they would not approve of aspertame, MSG, flouride in municipal water supplies, and thousands of "drugs". Nor would they try to take over and/or eliminate herbs, vit and min suppliments, etc.. Many of you will flame me now, no doubt, because you don't believe me, but someday you will know the truth.

You are obviously mean spirited and antagonistic. You have no intention of helping.

We all have free will to do whatever we choose, even hurting ourselves. But what about the endless repercussions: The example you set for kids, your loved ones who will have to watch helplessly as you suffer as a result, the devastating financial loss due to medical bills, the overburdening of the medical system, etc, etc, etc. It is not just yourself you hurt, but everyone else in one way or another. Why? Because WE ARE ALL CONNECTED. I will save you all some typing now, "You are very condescending, arrogant, etc...." Well, I certainly understand why you think so, but somebody has to challange the status quo.

This is what I am talking about.

Haven't you, a nurse, ever heard of medical marajuana? In California, Oregon, and other states the voters passed propositions to legalize it for medical use. Are you actually unaware of the medical benefits? I am amazed. Or are you just trying to stir things up by implying that I condone its recreational use by working nurses?

You obviously have no idea what kind of education I have had. The many years of "higher education" I've had have not educated me. The real education I value is what I taught myself in the last few years from reading hundreds of books (of my own choosing), from scouring the internet, thinking critically, rationally, and intuitively, observing the world, and trying to see through bias and hidden agendas. If I go to nursing school I expect to be "educated" about nursing, not about life or what is really going on in the world.

Oh right the FDA is there to protect us helpless citizens. And of course they are not at all influenced by the same pen-giving pharmy reps. Synthetic drugs good....herbal remedies bad. Tobacco good....marijuana bad. God bless the FDA for keeping us all safe!

Uh...well...since you asked....yes...I do have something against donuts. They are made of highly processed flour and sugar which was likely treated with pesticides and genetically modified. Then preservatives are added so it will still look like it is actually food for years. Throw in some food coloring so it will remind you what color nutritious real food like fresh fruit and veggies is. MMM MMM nothing like eating something completely devoid of any nutritional value and loaded with dead and clearly harmful stuff. I guess they could be good as paper weights.:trout:

Well excuse me for being an idealist and caring. I guess I should just keep my mouth shut and not rock the boat. Drugs for everyone! More TV and donuts! Hooray for the Man!

How many times do I have to reiterate that I believe there are definitely times when drugs are needed?! There have been many replies already saying what you just did again. I was just suggesting that those who doubt the healing power of natural remedies (when appropriate) could find out for themselves by trying it.

I am living proof that exercise (and diet) can indeed effectively replace drugs. I was severly chronically depressed :ofor years and was on several antidepressants (not concurrantly). They helped, but the side effects were really bad. Then I started doing yoga...Bikram yoga...and I couldn't believe how good I felt! I quite the antidepressants and not only have I not offed myself, but I continue to avoid depression as long as I don't go too long without yoga. I guess I am addicted to yoga, but what a great thing to be addicted to. It keeps me extremely limber which means less injuries (good when I start lifting pts), keeps me trim and toned, balances hormones, I could go on and on. To EVERYONE: It seems like alot of people are not aware of how well the body can heal itself if it is simply properly nourished, exercised, and rested. If you are really skeptical why not do a scientific experiment on yourself...try some good, regular, vigorous, enjoyable exercise and/or a healthy diet of fresh, organic, non GMO food, maybe even raw food, and/or maybe a brief fast. And see how you feel...(aside from the detox of course). If you do, and you are objective, you may just experience for yourself how miraculous these simple, natural, and free remedies are both in preventing and in treating many ailments from acne to cancer. I must say that I am happy to read some recent posts by some well informed nurses who know the extent of what is going on, yet are still encouraging me to pursue the field and find a good niche where I can help without compromising my beliefs too much. I sure hope a lot of you who like getting free pens and the other bribes are kidding. Don't you realize you are being played?! Thanks again for all the great feedback. I am glad I have sparked a dialogue about this important issue...man.