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does western career college require you to take outside courses like anatomy/phys ect or they offer it there too? My friend wants to go there since she hopes theirs less pre-reqs and classes but i havent found anything stating they do. also they take care clerkships too? thanks for any help

i meant as far as medical school, its only two more years. but yea, i realize i have some choices to make. most likely i will try and do some shadowing to get some first hand experience. as far as being hungry for a certain profession, im not quite sure but if i had to guess itd have to be nurse. i say that because the title isnt as important to me as the responsibilities itself, and which ever job entitles that is the one im going to strive for. thanks again

im definetly seeing the benefits of being able to change specialty areas as a NP, thats the main reason why I decided not to do physician assistant. The hrs, like I said above are a major issue, because id like to have a life outside the hospital. As far as being an EM NP, are they mostly just doing fast track things? I don't see too many job listings for EM NP's, (I mainly just search online) Out of curiousity to the woman who said she makes more money then her husband who is a doctor, whats your job? I always figured doctors made the most of any medical profession. Call me crazy but the techniques that doctors use (mostly in traumas) are something id like to, ordering lab tests, preforming BSL maneveurs, making/clearing airways, suturing, administering/prescribing meds, making diagnoses, ect. that is what i want to do, wether its as a doctor or NP thats it, being in a fast paced enviroment where i have to think on my toes is my dream. The only thing i have to figure out is in which profession is that most prevalent. The only major turn off im facing with NP is the DNP I'm ok with being grandfathered in but as far as having to go back to school if i chose another job would suck...when im done with school, i want to be done. (atleast with the major stuff) Thanks guys

im at the point in my life where I have to decide what it is I want to do. For the longest time I've wanted to be a nurse which turned into nurse practitioner, but now I'm thinking why not MD? The reasons that come to mind are the hours, the long hours of not just med school, but residency and the rest of my career, I don't know that I can do it. However the maneuvers (like trachs, intubation, ect) MD's use are something I would like to practice on a daily basis, the diagnoses ect. The money is a plus but I like being the decision maker and the person 'the buck stops at'. However I would like to have a life and be able to see my family or friends and working 50 hrs a week is do-able, 60+ (doctors hrs) im not so sure. As a NP the education requirements are ever-changing, as a doctor, they have to be re-certifyed every so often which is ok but the requirements pretty much stay the same. Im very confused as to which is better for me, i know as a doctor i will have a ton of responsibility as i will as a NP. the different medical models dont bother me as much because I feel both are easily interchangable. One of my biggest concerns with being a doctor is the math involved. I'm not as good as i should be but everything else i learn pretty easily. The years of school isnt a big issue (sort of) because itll be only 2 years longer then if i was in NP school. As far as specialty areas go Im torn between OB-GYN, Emergency Medicine, Neonatal/Perintal and Family Practice. I would love to double specialize but im not sure how plausible that is anyway, ive done enough talking. help me out please!! Thanks

for pa and np programs where i live they only want college level algebra to get in, for most np programs they want stats also.

so assuming id be grandfathered in, eventually down the line wouldnt i have to get a DNP anyways? just like with those who got a certificate? If i have to look for another job that wants DNP (req) would that cause a problem? My hope for this (and future jobs) would be DNP preferred but not required.

so is this set in stone? that by 2015 NP will have to be DNP? I as because by 2013 or 2014 ill be done with a MSN and FNP and dont want to have to go back to school again for the dotorate, sure i might be grandfathered in but in the long run it might be better to have the DNP fore reasons already listed? thanks in advance

In my opinon I would go the LVN to either RN to BSN. It will take some work but itll be faster. Alot of nursing programs are impacted so even though you finish your pre-reqs it could be about a 2 year wait just to get in. In the mean time you could be well on your way to being a nurse through other means. I guess it just depends on what kind of time schedule you want. The LVN route requires a few steps before hand though, first youll have to be a CNA (which is anywhere where 2 months to 6 months of school) then get your license as a LVN, then apply to LVN-RN classes which will take about two years (LVN to BSN is the same and you get the degree to boot!) Either way keep taking those pre-reqs and if you decided to do LVN-RN/BSN check the schools pre-reqs for that specific program (they might want you to take stats or an extra eng class) Hope everything works out for the best!!! and goodluck

what exactly is the difference between the "medical" model and the "nursing" model? From what I see, yes PAs and NPs apply for the same jobs so the difference in models dont seem to matter as much as the practitioner itself...perhaps its just a name people focus too much on.

I asked myself this too, usually I just search for NP jobs in my area (state) and a bunch of positions come up, so that helps ease the worrying. Health care jobs will always be needed so I wouldn't worry too much.

So you didnt have to do classes out side of (online or campus classes) to get your degree? I think I might do the RN to MSN route then take the certificate class at the university, which like you said, will be full time one year.

I was deciding which would be the best (and cheapest) way of becoming a NP, either take RN-MSN at University of Phoenix and do what clinicals I have to do to get the MSN degree (I read you can't get the actual degree from UOP clincals ect. have to be completed first.) or get my BSN (at either UOP or Sonoma state) and go into the Master of Science of Nursing, but my question is, is that specific program going to give me a (certificate) to become a NP or is it just a MSN degree program and I'll have to take the actual NP portion of it later? I hope its not confusing, I'm just wondering how to go about it. Thanks in advance!

I pretty much know that nurses will draw blood, insert IV's, take vitals, administer meds....but beyond that side of it I'm not really sure what nurses do...particularly in an ER or OB dept. do they insert breathing tubes? I'm sure they do catheters....but what else is there. Its kind of a dumb question but instead of assuming (like I've been doing) I wanted a statement with someone with experience. I ask because I'm considering being a nurse (Nurse Practictioner) for the larger part of my life, or PA the pay isn't so much an issue as is the duties itself. I would like to take patient histories, prescribe meds if need be, preform trachs, intubations, diagnose different types of diseases and illnesses. However, I don't really want to be a docter because I feel with docters the emphasis is on "treating the patient" I want to be more hands on. I'm kind of confused. Thanks.

well the working would depend on my course load, i planned on taking 3 classes, one per day then working afterwards. For the fall I wanted to take Bio 105 (which is nutr, heath, and disease) however Im pretty good at sciences so I dont think ill have to study much, Beg algebra and a Human Development class. so M-T then F/Sat/Sun work and study. But other then that theres nothing, no kids, and I'm almost sure I wont have to work more then 20 hrs a week ( I mostly need the job to pay for my own food and clothes as needed) but hearing you taking 4 classes makes me wonder I guess Ill see how the summer goes but my goal is to graduate by 2010 and Im worried about the whole weightlist scenario...2 years IMO is much to long