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Hello, just wondering how long it took in the end to get your permanent license? I have applied for a license by endorsement without TPP in mid-May and haven't heard anything back yet. Thanks!

Thanks all! nursingschooldiva I sent you a message, and cazach0122 thank you for the charting info. From searching all the other old threads here is what I found, anything at all regarding pay since 2010: 01/2010: "im a RN with a lil over 1 year expearince and make 30 an hour at a level 2 trauma center" 7/2010: "new grad, any UPMC hospital starts at between $20-21 an hour" 12/2010: "temple is Union, Temple is a great place to work for." 11/2011: "Temple benefits not as good as they used to be, health insurance ~200 per pay/family of 4, parking ~90/mo, union dues." 04/2012: "[Fox Chase] Salaries are below local averages" 05/2012: "Jefferson U Hospital: relatively equal pay to other Philadelphia hospitals" 06/2012: "University of Pennsylvania, Presbyterian Medical Center, Pennsylvania Hospital, Jefferson Hospital, Methodist Hospital, and Temple Hospital, all require BSN, or a few years of experience. These are the best hospitals to work at in the city. " 06/2012: "Jefferson U Hospital: Great benefits (medical, vision, dental, FSA, 403b, pension, life insurance), plus 3 weeks vacation and 8 days sick pay to start. " 12/2012: "A BSN starts around $80K (I think). [Philly VA]" 10/2012: "New grad nurses start out at around $31/hr. [Cooper]" 12/2012: "[Jefferson U Hospital]: Retirement matching of 6%, Health plan is expensive outside of Jefferson practices" 01/2013: "[Jefferson U Hospital] Salary levels were a little low"/"Mid to low end of the payscale"/"Not competitive in pay" 02/2013: "UPMC: BSN. New grad. Offered $23/hour. opportunity for 3-5% raise in 6 months [3-5%=0.69-1.15]" 02/2013: "UPMC $22 + $1 for bsn. 4% raise at 6 months [4%=0.92]" 04/2013: "VAMC Philly: 5East/West Med-Surg-Rehab, $59,537.00 to $113,956.00 [28.62/hr-54.78/hr]" 03/2013: "From my experience temple pays the best while hahnemann is the worst." 05/2013: "some PA health systems are heavily unionized, which will affect pay." 06/2013: "New grad at Hahnemann, $27.50 an hour" If anyone else can add anything that would be great. Thank you :)

Thanks Kristin, that helps :)

Do you know if either Temple or Hahnemann has computerized charting? Thank you

Hello, I'm moving to center-city Philadelphia at the end of the year and am looking for a little information on the hospitals in the vicinity. I'm RN, BSN, 7 years acute care hospital experience with last two as hospital float (med/surg/onc/infusion/tele/TCU). I'm curious as which hospitals are known for better pay/any guesses on what my pay range would be, info on benefits, if their charting is computerized or not, or any other useful information. Thank you! Hahnemann University Hospital University Hospital Methodist Hospital Magee Rehabilitation Hospital St Joseph's Hospital Temple University Hospital Philadelphia VA Medical Center Penn Presbyterian Hospital Mercy Philadelphia Hospital Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania

The deal with Haywood Regional: On February 24th of this year they lost Medicare and Medicaid certification after several failed inspections. The CEO and some other top admin people resigned, and they cleaned up their act and regained all certifications on May 23rd. So they were basically empty for three months cause no insurance would reimburse for treatment there, but now it's all good again. Their website: http://www.haymed.org/ Mission is a corporate monster.

My take on Mission: 1) Mission is NOT a magnet, they applied for magnet status and failed. 2) This fall (2008) they hired 150+ new graduates and as a result had to cancel clinicals for all local nursing schools (AB-Tech, Western Carolina University) because they are overwhelmed with trying to orient grads and had to forget about trying to deal with students. This tells you something.. experienced staff are leaving Mission if they can (Mission has a bit of a monopoly here though so there aren't too many other options). 3) Their health insurance is arguably terrible. See this letter from an employee who wrote to the local newsweekly if you'd like more details: http://www.mountainx.com/opinion/2008/health_employees_deserve_health_insurance 4) New grads start out at 20 and some change. There is no pay difference for ADN or BSN. No pay difference for ACLS or if you have a specialty certification. There is no shift differental for weekends (there is a weekender program), eve=$3.50, night=$4. The only holidays they recognize are Thanksgiving and Christmas. There is no yearly cost of living increase or increase based on your time employed there, it is all very subjective (limited objectivity thru PEAR program.. a whole other story..) and "merit-based". Agreed. Nearly impossible to get a job here. Be aware most jobs are 8-hour shifts. Also the recruiter is notoriously incompetent. -------- Other Asheville work options: -CarePartners- pay is more than Mission -Asheville Specialty Hospital- pay is more than Mission, extra pay for ACLS -Bayada- home health/stable vents, start pay $20/hr (lower pay but very 'easy' work) -several nursing homes, and agencies Other things to consider: -cost of living much higher than the rest of the state (including gas prices, always 10-20 cents more than the rest of the state)

Oh I might add however that the big hospital here Mission pays new grads less than $20/hr starting pay.

Up here in Asheville the pay rate at Bayada for RNs is also $20/hr, $22/hr on weekends. No night differential.

One more thing, the VA hospital is almost impossible to get hired at. The recruiter is honestly useless and never returns phone calls or emails. I have heard this from probably 10 other people in addition to experiencing it for myself. I hear she is retiring in a few years and just doesn't give a crap. Federal jobs are like tenure, hard to get rid of a bad staff member.

I work at Mission and all I can say is almost everyone is unhappy with the health insurance. You do not get a choice of plans and the insurance has a high deductible and there is constant paperwork hassle. As for me, I have ONE prescription (NuvaRing), and it still costs me $45 a month (its $55 without insurance). I personally didnt have a problem getting hired but I have heard others call it "Mission Impossible to get hired". I am leaving very soon, have been there less than 6 months, very unhappy with the management and the human resources department.

I just called around locally here in the Asheville area: Haywood Regional Medical Center: $19.80 Mission Hospital: $20.90 ($25 Per Diem) CarePartners: $23-$27 STAT Nursing (Agency): $26-$30 Interim Healthcare (Agency): $26-$32

Hello! I also would like some info on the Asheville VA.. what are the nurse/pt ratios like (for say, the med/oncology floor)? pay info? etc? thanks!

One day I finished signing my charting on the computer and realized I had written "Neutromember precautions"!!... [neutropenic] And once I saw a doc's note that said "skin pooping"...should have been skin popping.

i work in oncology/medical mix at a veterans hospital so i don't know how different it is here than other places... this was my first job so i dont have another area to compare it to either. it has made me very paranoid about getting cancer but i think that happens with most people with whatever area they are working in. a lot of the guys are A/O/A which is nice. the patients are usually here for longer so you get to know them better than a 'regular' patient. you just have to remember the one thing guaranteed in life is death so it doesnt get to you if you lose someone since you do get to know people so well. i havent had an onc pt actually die here on the floor though so i dont have to see the actual death, they are off to hospice by that point or ICU. my patients are 95% older men as well who have lived a good amount of time and were able to experience life vs. working with peds patients or younger people, that would bother me a whole lot more. its not so bad working oncology, kind of nice most of the time. the nurses on my floor are way nicer than other units in our hospital and from my nursing school days i remember during clinicals the onc nurses were always the kindest. its rewarding days far outnumber the ones where you feel like you are just prolonging suffering.