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There is alot of unprofessional behavior among nurses,nurses gossiping,putting others down behind their backs,backbiting,unsupportiveness,etc.,and Im guilty of it also. Is it possible to give an inservice on what is professional behavior? Perhaps education would curb that part of us,the bad side,and bring out our better part. Any ideas on how an Inservice on what is professionalism would be taught?

Your orders arent being transcribed to the Mar because of the human factor,human error.No matter what process you have in place,people will screw up.

Yes,for those nurses who are unhappy with themselves,their jobs and their lives,rudeness is a prerequiste.

I cope with death with belief,the belief that death is not the end of everything.

Hi Fran,Im using the idea of self righteous anger as the same with righteous anger,I see you seperate the two. Both of them imply that Im right,my cause is right and could be applied to anyone fighting injustice or pursuing a righteous cause,like Jesus in the temple. Im just sharing my spiritualliy and how,for me any kind of anger is a hinderance to being filled with Gods spirit.When Im filled lets say with "righteous anger" I need to pray that God removes it and that I be given a vision of his will in the situation. Yes I understand the role of righteous anger and justice,fighting the good fight.Im just saying I cant handle anger . I cant have a healthy emotional,intellectual or spiritual life with anger in it.Ive found that even righteous anger ought to be left with those who are better able to handle it,lets say like "Jesus in the Temple" "Love,then do what you will" St. Augustine. A warm Aloha ,God Bless and Happy Holidays to you Fran

Fran,I cant address your entire post,but Ill share something personal.For me anger,self righteous or not,is my spiritual enemy. Anger,especially the self righteous kind,is a cover,it covers up my ego,its an excuse to be right,to get revenge and to feel superior to my opponent,it blocks me off from the sunlight of Gods spirit,Jesus Christ,and to follow Gods will.

Aloha Chearful, you cant go wrong if you follow the bold St.Augustinian saying,"Love and so what you will." .

Cheerful,I have been in a similar situation,trapped in a room,closed doors with DON and 2 supervisors,but if there are no witnessess to the wrongs of these people then its your word against theirs. I wanted to sue also,but couldnt,my word against theirs,and I think that was a good thing I couldnt sue as my God wills that I forgive as he forgives me and that I love my enemies.

Thank you for your thoughtful replies to this probing question. I would like to articulate nursing as "who we are". By this I mean we need to justify our existence,"who we are" through our achievements as nurses.

Nursing can be stressful,[duh]. I think what adds to this stress is personalizing what happens to us at work. For many of us nursing is "who we are",our identities are caught up in our roles as nurses,as opposed to nursing being "what we do" to make a living,to survive,or to have a reasonable way of life. If nursing is "who you are",then things that dont go our way,or failures or having a bad day will be a personal affront to our identities.If nursing is "what you do" then you can be more detached,not so wraped up in events and in the end,this will probably make us better nurses. I think knowing the difference can help us cope,decrease burn out and wanting to tell our employer to "take this job and shove it" And of course there are events,unethical practices,unethical occurances that should not be tolerated. I know we can all judge the differences.

Wow,It must be great to be able to tell your employer,"take this job and shove it" and sometimes and somedays I wish I could...But I dont have that luxery,family,mortage,dog,cat,fish,etc.and overall,when I count my blessings,I enjoy my work. Your suing the hospital? How do you sue the whole damn hospital? I could see how you could sue and individual in the hospital.. I think Jesus tried to help humanity also and yet look what happened to him,and yet for Christians,he is our example and the mentor for how we shall live our lives. Enjoy your vacation and good luck with your suit.

Discrimination?Shes working isnt she Barbie? If shes busier than others ,then others might be lazy.Tracing our ancestry? We all trace our ancestry back to africa,even if your Irish,like myself.

I hope I dont sound Unsympathetic to your plight,but in my opionon Nursing is not the Profession to be in if you are seeking acknowledgment,recognition or praise,this is my opinion based on my experience. If its any comfort,or it might discomfort,these words come from the Book of Luke 17:7-10"Will any one of you,who has a servant plowing or keeping sheep,say to him when he has come in from the field,'Come at once and sit down at the table'? Will he not rather say to him,'Prepare supper for me and gird yourself and serve me,till I eat and drink: and afterward you shall eat and drink'? does he thank the servant because he did what was commanded? So you also,when have done all that is commanded you,say,'We are unworthy servants: we have only done what was ou duty.'

There are different management styles,and I believe one can attract more bees with honey,but the the authoritarian management style of some HNs always rubs me the wrong way,my problem with authority? This style is not explicitlly rude,but isnt it a disrespectful way to interact? I always find my self defensive,and tempted to be a smart ass,when a HN barks orders at me,"tells" me what to do,is unfriendly,etc. and etc.,after all ,what about the golden rule? But does a HN need to follow the golden rule? even though I do,imperfectly. Should I just get over it and deal with it? After all the HN is the boss right?,and for whatever reason,has adopted the style that works. Your responses will help. Peace.

My wife and I ,both nurses,sometimes work on the same floor,therefore she has seen me in action. While she says Im a good nurse,she also says I panic,or I freak out,or I get to overly nervous or overly concerned if,lets say if I get behind,or lets say,as its happened to all of us,I miss a 1200 med and give it an hour later,or whatever.. .and I agree with her. Now does anyone else have this reaction to a less than perfect day? or is this just my Perfectionistic Character Defect showing? And should I...as my wife told,"just chill baby"

More helpful replies,thank you.

Well thank you for replies. I wonder why we dont have a P and P on this.

Today Dr. ordered a patient to receive a Bolus of 500cc of NS. The IV was running 75cc/hr via IV pump. A nurse tried to run the IV bolus, thru the pump,because all she had was IV pump tubing,but she turned the pump off and hoped it would flow by gravity thru the pump with the pump turned off but for some reason the NSwould not flow by gravity thru the turned of IV pump. All we had on the floor was IV tubing to be used in a pump,no regular tubing to be used simply by gravity. I went home before I found out how they ran the Bolus but I wanted to ask,can you run a Bolus by an IV pump?,and if so,how fast would it go in? I think they were talking about running by the pump at 300cc per hr.,but I dont know why they chose that rate. Any ideas?

McCaffery is the Goddess of Pain Management. Ill go with her too.

Ive always understood that Fentanyl patches can be placed anywhere,chest back etc. But we have one nurse,who recently went to a Pain Seminar,that insists the patch must be place ot the torso,as it is absorbed best there. She gets bent out of shpae when she finds them anywhere else. Has anyone seen any literature in regards to fentanyl placement?

Somewhere ,from someone,I was once told that some of us need to put down others so they can feel good about themseves,self esteem issue. Do fire men have a healthy self esteem and do nurses have a low self esteem,hence the put downs?

Snoopy,Since Im not a psychologist,I can only give my "naive" theory on what you call "low self esteem" Youve got this unrealistic self imposed standard ,or maybe its an unrealistic standard at the hospital,that you cant live up to ,as a result your threatened,your self conscious. It helps me to remember that Anxiety cannot exist without self focus, and that if I mess up its not the end of the world,after all Jesus failed and got crucified,but it wasnt the end of the world for him. Im sure this DOESNT help,but I tried. Alot of the responses to your thread are that we cannot know it all,that even doctors consult. I heard a nurse say she did know it all,in her area any way,I just had to shake my head.

This is what a female nurse told me once.She noticed on a floor where there were all females,backbiting,backstabbing,gossip,talking trash behind other nurses backs took place of the floor. When she floated to a floor where the majority of nurses were males,all that trash talk was absent,morale was high and work got done. Im not drawing any conclusions,just sharing an observation made by another female nurse. Of course we need to protect patients from incompetancy and report such incompetancy,but there are nurses being written up for the smallest,insignificant things that could either be over looked or could be taken to the offending nurse. I know that people who like to put others down feel inferior and they need to do that so they can feel better

Thanks for your replies,as most of them have given me a new perspective and a positive outlook of having to be floated and work as a CNA.

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