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I don't mind it when people don't wipe their butts.

I know someone working in tech in Contra Costa who earns about $70k and rents a small apartment on Market St and is able to afford many other expenses. From my experience SF area has fairly cheap options for food, entertainment, transportation, going out, and other things. I would think $70k would be a good salary. I was in SF for a month and spent less than $1k, but I had someone to stay with. I know housing can be brutal if you pay rent.

The Idaho board of nursing processes background checks through the Idaho Central Criminal Database and the FBI, so you would definitely want to check what is on your record with those agencies before applying to their BON. Thanks for your input, please let me know how it works out for you.

I have been reading articles online that say the NCLEX cannot really be studied for (Why You Can't "Study" for NCLEX - happyNCLEX). I am wondering how accurate this is. I have heard that it is both a critical thinking/common sense type of exam more than it is knowledge/content based. So you need to study how to reason your way through it. I am planning to purchase Saunders review because I really want to pass it quickly. My school has an +80% pass rate on the NCLEX, however my college requires us to pass an Exit HESI before taking the NCLEX so that may be why the pass rate is high. I have also heard cases of people who don't pass even after multiple attempts and several years after graduating.

BART "bay area rapid transit" provides cheap and fast transportation all around the SF area. I personally went from San Jose to San Francisco for $6 and in under 45 minutes.

In Utah I would only make about $40k a year working in the nursing home where my other friend is, and really like $30k after income tax. Either way it would be a little bit of a struggle.

He shares with like 3 people and the apartment is 3 bedrooms and has a bay view.

And while I cannot say that I have writing the California BRN received a check from the FBI and CA DOJ and nothing more, I have done extensive research in the subject and have never found any indication otherwise. In fact, every state board of nursing seems to do a fingerprint-based background check through their respective state as well as FBI (except 6 states that don't dk any background check at all). They seem to be under the false assumption that an FBI background check is all-encompassing when it is not, at least not from when I personally reviewed my own FBI criminal history records. One nursing board even said, "our background check includes a state AND FBI background check. In other words, we will find arrests and charges that occured in this stste as well as other states." And on CA BRN website, What does the Board look for on the California Department of Justice (DOJ) and/or Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) reports? "The Board reviews the RAP sheets (i.e., criminal record reports) to ensure that the conviction history matches what you provided on your Report of Conviction form and to determine if the violation is related to the qualifications of a licensee. How can you get a copy of your RAP sheet ( i.e., criminal record report)? You may request a copy of your RAP sheet from the Department of Justice (DOJ). DOJ requires you to complete a "Record Review Process" form, complete another fingerprint card and pay a fee for processing. To obtain more information on this process, you must contact DOJ directly." I made this post to see if anyone has any evidence that the CA BRN goes beyond a state and FBI background check, stuff that anyone can get for themselves for personal review. I simpy was correcting some responders on this thread who seem to think the board of nursing has the money, time, and resources to find out any personal dirt that has ever occurred anywhere, without any source to backup the claim. If no one can provide evidence otherwise before I put my career on the line, why would I incriminate myself if I don't have to? It would require a lot of paperwork, time, and a high probability that I get denied, even though I would have been honest. California has been known to discipline nurses harshly, if they find a conviction in their FBI and CA DOJ report.

California board of nursing uses an FBI and California DOJ background check. http://www.healthsciences.uci.edu/nursing/docs/brn%20message%20on%20rn%20fingerprints.pdf http://www.acnl.org/assets/docs/dec%20brn%20fingerprinting.pdf According to their website's FAQ: "What is my fingerprint information going to be used for? The mission of the Board is to protect the health and safety of California healthcare consumers. Any information received from the California Department of Justice (DOJ) or the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis to determine if there is any cause to pursue administrative action against the license." Also: Type of Results and Timeframes: The Board receives various types of results from the DOJ and FBI. Clear – A response stating no convictions have occurred or a listing of any conviction sustained. Rejection – The Board will notify you within 14 days after a rejection of fingerprints is received from DOJ or FBI. If initial Live Scan fingerprints do not produce clear results, you will be notified by the BRN with additional instructions to re-submit fingerprints. You will not be charged an additional DOJ and FBI fee, but may be charged the Live Scan vendor's processing fee. Please allow 2 to 4 weeks for fingerprint results to be electronically transmitted from DOJ to the BRN. Click here for a list of Live Scan locations. Delay – A DOJ or FBI delay can vary from approximately 30 to 90 days before the Board will receive a result. Invalid – The Board will notify you within 14 days after an invalid fingerprint notification is received from DOJ or FBI. Fingerprint Requirement for License Renewal What are you basing your assumption on that the California board of nursing goes above and beyond in searching criminal history? As previously noted, my charges came from out of state. In California, all misdemeanors and felonies are mandatorily fingerprinted and put on file with the CA DOJ. Even if they are "expunged", California law does not erase the record and merely changes its disposition from "conviction" to "dismissed." Fingerprint Requirement for License Renewal

http://mbon.maryland.gov/Documents/FAQs%20CHRC%2012.16.pdf According to this link, they require you to address every "arrest, charge, and/or conviction." I currently go to college in a state where they only ask for felony convictions on an application. Because my FBI background check isn't showing any charges, I am hoping I will be fine in not disclosing my criminal history in other states when applying for endorsement.

Did they ask for disclosure of charges/arrests without convictions on the application?

As I've mentioned, I did an FBI fingerprint criminal background check on myself and turned up nothing. The FBI provides individuals with their own Identity History Summary for personal view and it doesn't hide any information.

The board of nursing in Utah, for example, states that if you have formally expunged a conviction then to make sure it was forwarded to the FBI to be eliminated from the records. But in CA "expungement" is not a true expungement as it stays on record with the DOJ and FBI. Utah also gives a warning that if information from the FBI indicates I did not adequately disclose my criminal history then any license issued will be revoked. I have done a lot of research on this and it seems that every nursing board says they send your fingerprints out for a state and FBI background check. I do not think that they have the money to do extra private background checks beyond the state and FBI as the application fee they get from us is relatively small. Honestly, I wouldn't try that. Yes, there's a chance you could get away with it...but it's more likely that you won't. You really don't know what tools the BRN has their disposal when it comes to background checks. They've got some big guns at their disposal. So the fact that it didn't turn up in YOUR search won't mean it's not going to turn up in theirs. Or perhaps they won't find it at first, but it may turn up in a later search. It's not so much the shoplifting charge that would hold you back with the BRN--there's a lot of nurses who have theft convictions who were able to get/keep their licenses. What would be the problem is the BRN discovering on their own something that you should have told them. BRNs consider that falsification of your information, and BRNs really hate nurses that lie. The penalty for such things is usually greater than if the nurse had disclosed it in the beginning. You could contact the BRN--do it anonymously if you prefer--and ask for more information. If you want to take your chances and not disclose, that's up to you. I can't say I recommend it. Best of luck whatever you decide.

What I can see in my FBI check is what the Board of nursing can see.

I have heard that, but I know someone there who shares with a bunch of roommates and pays only $300 a month.

I'm expecting to graduate from a BSN program soon. I have a friend who lives in St George Utah and is certain he can help me get my first job as a nurse at a detox facility where he works, but they said they would only pay me like $24 an hour as a new grad. I recently travelled to San Francisco and met an ER nurse who told me he takes home $120k and could help me get a job there. He also told me that he had been working as a nurse for 14 years before moving to cali. My question is, do SF nurses really make that much money? Is it feasible for people with little or employment history to land a position in california? It seems ludicrous to me to make so much even though the cost of living there is very high.

All states ask about felony and misdemeanor convictions on their application for RN licensure, except New Mexico, North Dakota, and Connecticut, which just ask for disclose of felonies.

I saw that. But they also check through the FBI and their CA DOJ. These charges were out of state so they are not going to come up in a CA state background check and I don't have a criminal record with the FBI.

Did you read my whole post? I answered this question. And yes, I think there is a difference between theft of $2 and something else of substantially greater value, say a car. The board of nursing in my state only does a fingerprint-based background check through the FBI and state criminal repository. I have already done background checks on myself through those means and both have come back clean. And the application for an RN license in my state only asks about felony convictions, so I can honestly answer no regardless. But I will be applying to other states afterwards for licensure without disclosing it since my crime was not reported to the FBI.

Yep. But I'm planning not to disclose it because it doesn't come up on an FBI background check. I did one on myself.

50 is too old, in my opinion. I am only 21 and sometimes feel like I am too old to even be in college. There's a 60 year old man in my nursing school who asks me out on dates so it's not uncommon for older folk to not realize when they have missed the boat.

Kindergarteners scare me.

I am looking to apply for a license in California but have had some out of state misdemeanor charges from when I was a teenager. I don't plan to disclose them because they didn't show up when I did an FBI fingerprint background check on myself.

Hi, thank you for sharing. I was charged with petty theft for attempting to steal a $2 from Walmart at age 19 (2 years ago). I am from out of state, halfway through a BSN program, and am afraid I won't be able to work in California without restrictions. I am hoping the BRN will forgive it because the item in question was of very low value and it only happened once.

I'm currently 21 in a BSN program and have made a couple mistakes that I'm afraid will come back to bite me when I apply for licensure. At the age of 16 I was charged with driving without a license, driving without insurance, and duty upon striking a fixture. At the time I did not know how to challenge the charges so I simply pleaded guilty and received around $200 in fines that I paid in full. Then at age 19 I was charged with shoplifting a $2 item from Walmart. I agreed to sign an agreement with the judge as part of a pre-trial diversion. I was required to stay out legal trouble for 3 months as part of an unsupervised probation. I did not have any further run ins with the law during those 3 months or for the past 2 years and both cases have been dismissed. I never went to jail or was fingerprinted and my FBI rap sheet shows "no records found." Can the California BRN deny a license over dismissed traffic citations and a theft of an item that was valued at only 2 dollars? Can they find these charges if they occurred in another state and are not in the FBI's database? I'm asking for advice from someone who knows anything about the BRN in CA. I have read many threads on here of people who have had worse offenses and got approval in CA unrestricted. I have also read stories of people who made innocent mistakes, and were initially denied.