uberdoog

I've also worked McDonalds For the rest of your life? Quite a hyperbole. Share the story then?

If anything, all the above sound like universal human flaws and foibles.

and you. you too are filipino and have said could you be more specific please? what, if i might ask, are these "bad habits" you speak of? i'd like to know because you said unfortunately, you haven't substantiated what you claim is "sad and true" so could you help me here? help me here.

uh huh. allow me to clarify: you are filipino but do not like working with "bunch/es of pinoys (filipinos)?" also, you state that "philippines style of work ethics is a good training ground for future a*******." but you say you have "no philippine work experience" because you left right after college. what preceding work environment were you referring to then? now don't get me wrong, i'd just like to know a bit more of where you're coming from. i'd like to understand.

your nose is very welcome! appreciated, mike. this aspect of the work is often forgotten or glossed over because it's too upsetting and/or embarrassing. we been duly warned. got it.

Now yer talking. Ok, I'm willing to put in the time then. Thanks!

that's somewhat too cryptic and hardly helps. what ups have you seen? what downs? in the u.s. anyway?

read it again, doc. everything including the last paragraph. you don't seem to get it.

that's funny. one of my female classmates in nursing school has her belly button pierced (don't ask me how i found out) and a butterfly tattoo on her shoulder. my rle partner's got a military tattoo on his deltoid. so what's the fuss?

doesn't matter where you take it because the two places share from the same pool of examiners in the philippines and they also use the same test packs all over the world on that same date. any perceived difference between the two places is just that, perceived (but subjective). also, with regard to the examiner favoring someone he/she has given a review to, you place too much credence on the examiner's memory. if an examiner should remember you clearly, he/she will move you to another examiner. in the unfortunate situation where the examiner remembers you during the interview, pray you're performing at the band score standards you're aiming for or the examiner will be placed into the difficult but inevitable situation of grading you according to your actual performance level. no winka wink play will change that. really.

that was very big of you, kelly. my deepest thanks for that noble gesture. this world would be a better place with people like you. domo arigato gozaimashita. at marami-marami pong salamat.

The TOEFL (paper-based and computer-based tests) used to be hampered by the separation of the speaking component to the TSE (Test of Spoken English) with the consequence of jacking up the total cost to the test taker. ETS woke up to a rude awakening when the IELTS provided a test that integrated all 4 components at nearly half the cost of the combined TOEFL + TSE... with none of the nonsense of sending bank drafts halfway across the world if you didn't have a credit card and everyone knows even the Bushmen of Africa have 'em (NOT!). ETS changed all that (after nearly 7 years of pigheaded holding out!) and are pretending that the PBT and CBT were nothing but bad dreams (PBT? CBT? Whazzat?). If you're still in the Philippines, the IELTS is up, running, and easy to apply to. The TOEFL iBT is still in its introductory stages (the workshop activities of H.A.Cervantes evidence this). But to really answer the question about experiencing the iBT, nope. Haven't met anyone who has yet.

Either one, the TOEFL iBT (Internet based test) or the IELTS will suffice. The TOEFL (paper-based and computer-based tests) used to be hampered by the separation of the speaking component to the TSE (Test of Spoken English) with the consequence of jacking up the total cost to the test taker. They wised up when the IELTS provided a test that integrated all 4 components at nearly half the cost of the combined TOEFL + TSE. They changed all that and are pretending that the PBT and CBT were nothing but bad dreams. If you're still in the Philippines, the IELTS is up, running, and easy to apply to. The TOEFL iBT is still in its introductory stages (the activities of H.A.Cervantes evidencing this).

good grief, doc. you really want advice on what to do when you grow up? these are life changing questions that you ought to have heard answers to when you were at med school or even at the hospital! you serious?

Here's my 2 cents: as far as the overall school ratings go, I never heard of anyone passing the Philippine Local Board exams, the CGFNS, the NCLEX, or the TOEFL/IELTS on the strength of the school's name. Everyone but everyone had to do their homework. In the end, the name of the school doesn't count as much as what you put into your study and how much you used your brain, regardless.

it's like asking what the meaning of life is and whether you have hair on your chest. whether coming back to the philippines is a good move or not, well, you're the best judge of that, bitoy (have you had your head checked recently? you want to come back?). seriously, the h1b visa is often what starting nurses/teachers get and you've already got that. and neither do telecom workers get paid peanuts. so why, ,why, prithee pray tell, would you want to come back to the philippines to take up a nursing degree? which of course brings us to our next point: there's more you're not telling us. like the fact that your wife probably gets an h4 which means she gets to tag along with you there but can't work. bummer. (i'm shooting in the dark here so help me). it's really going to take you the better part of 3 years counting all the study and hoops you hafta jump through if you come back. if you've got a lot saved up, then upkeep shouldn't be a prob. the economy sucks bigtime. and gets worse all the time. you'll also lose your h1b. given our moro-moro politics, you risk being at the wrong place at the wrong time. so whatchathink?

:welcome: you ask an interesting question but i have to ask you back what you mean by best school. as a 2nd courser who's chronologically challenged like myself, the top schools are out of the question (besides, i have my 2 cents worth on what 'best school or best performing school' talk is worth as well). a more realistic approach would be to ask yourself what you want (a nursing degree and the competence that goes with it), what you got to offer (you know how old you are, i'm sure. and you're a second courser, besides), and what you need to get from this here point a (the philippines) to point b (the u.s.). if all it really takes is attending a rathole in downtown manila, well, what's ya gonna do? hmmm? and here's my 2 cents: as far as the overall school ratings go, i never heard of anyone passing the philippine local board exams, the cgfns, the nclex, or the toefl/ielts on the strength of the school's name. everyone but everyone had to do their homework. in the end, the name of the school doesn't count as much as what you put into your study, regardless. finally: your budget isn't enough by a long shot. you want to double it. i should know: i just enrolled again this sem. uberdoog

big deal! i'm 47 and an incoming 3rd year student. ha! how you like them crackers?

hi seaman! you ask an interesting question. well first, in terms of facilities, the schools will vary widely (mebbe i oughta say 'wildly'). none will be utopic, few will be western school catalogue impressive, many will be leaps of (blind, man, blind!) faith, and most - considering they've mushroomed allover the place - will be utter dumps. your intention to find a good school is commendable but you're getting off on the wrong foot by asking which is the best school for you and measuring that by how picture purty the school is. you see, your question includes not just a measure of the school which offers what you want (spiffy digs?) but what you bring to it (money bags?). and even if you're planning on being mr. big spender, the bad news is the top schools aren't going to make it any easier for you. you are a 2nd courser. you are older and haven't got as much time to fool around re-taking the general education courses. if you go to a top school you will have to start from ground up. you come in on the freshman level and none/few of your college credits will count for anything. (besides, i'm not sure how you're going to get credit in the nursing program for hull design or engine maintenance). a more realistic approach would be to ask yourself what you want (a nursing degree and the competence that goes with it), what you got to offer (you know how old you are, i'm sure. and you're a second courser, besides), and what you need to get from this here point a (the philippines) to point b (the u.s.). if all it really takes is attending a rathole in downtown manila, well, what's ya gonna do? hmmm? now, as far as the overall school ratings go, i never heard of anyone passing the philippine local board exams, the cgfns, the nclex, or the toefl/ielts on the strength of the school's name. everyone but everyone had to do their homework. in the end, the name of the school don't amount to a hill of beans: it's what you put into your study, regardless. get the drift, cap'n? best o'luck hunting for that school, matey!

since you'll eventually have to be concerned about your english proficiency, you want to ask "when/where did you graduate (not graduated)?"

That's Philippine Colleges for the Health Sciences, Inc. found a stone's throw (ask where the Narcisa building is) from the Recto station of LRT2. It's a big name for a small school the do do their best to accommodate 2nd coursers. A word of caution: if you're not familiar with inner city Manila you're in for a bit of culture shock. I sometimes think of the place (the area, not the school) as the armpit of Manila. If you're already in an allied profession, you should also consider La Sallette which I hear is closer to where you are now.

The examiner or the candidate? I think you mean the candidate.