I'll preface this post readily admitting that my opinion isn't going to go over well with many on this forum. Nevertheless, I feel compelled to address this issue. I've been working in critical care as an NP for 18 years with the past 10 being with an surgical intensivist team within a highly regarded hospital system in the Texas Medical Center. Numerous NP programs continually seek us to take their students. However, with the glutton of these ridiculous online programs and the gross lack of experience many (actually, most) of the nurses presenting to us, we are highly selective in who we choose after having "fired" a handful of said students. For the few here who have said these programs have very little to nonexistent standards in taking students, you are absolutely correct. So many people jump into nursing schools with the idea that they're going to immediately leap frog into an NP program. Moreover, there are (sadly) many programs who not only accommodate these students, but actually encourage it. At the end of the day, it's about the almighty dollar and it's absurd. Here's the bottom line - I couldn't care less how "experienced" or "confident "nurses" feel coming out of school (or even with a few years experience) because the fact of the matter is, it takes several YEARS of various experiences before you'll be prepared to enter into an NP program, much less practice at an advanced level - period. Is that to say you couldn't pass the class curriculum? Of course not... the curriculum in large part for most programs is an absolute joke (and particularly in comparison with PA programs). For example..Nursing theory? Seriously?? Sadly, I've seen some online programs advertise on Facebook that "NPs can practice in 20 states without the need of a collaborating physician". SMH... you have got to be kidding me. In addition to my primary employment, I moonlight at various hospitals and I'm often approached by newly minted nurses (and even nursing students) seeking advice on the NP profession and my response is always the same - "Don't even think about it. Learn to be a nurse first. Respectfully, you don't even know what you don't know. You must create a solid foundation of nursing experience from which to build from because quite frankly, an NP program isn't going to provide even a fraction of what you will need to practice autonomously as an NP." That's not an opinion - that's simply a fact. I strongly encourage nurses to have a solid eight years of nursing experience before pursuing a graduate degree because it takes that long to hone the necessary critical thinking skills, an asset woefully lacking in more than 90% of nurses today. Yes, I realize that's not a popular stance or what most of nurses want to hear. However, it's a statement based on years of hardcore experience in dealing with nurses and NP students. Also, a couple of pro tips - as preceptors, we are not there to educate/train you on the fundamentals of nursing. My team (as well as all good preceptors) FULLY expect you to come to the plate with a very strong knowledge base and solid experience from which we can help you to build upon. We're a busy team and haven't the time or the inclination to carry dead weight all day long. Secondly, if your nursing experience has always been in adult practice, please don't fool yourself into thinking that your semester in pediatrics and your ultra-light rotation in a pediatric clinical setting is going to prepare you to see children independently - it's more than ear infections and colds. I've digressed. Let's face it... there are plenty of professional organizations such as the American Medical Association (and numerous others) who have railed against the NP profession for many years and quite honestly, with the lack of standards in NP programs, it's hard to argue with them. Becoming an NP is more than achieving a glamours title. It's about practicing at an advanced level with the knowledge and skills obtained over many years and being accountable for YOUR actions and decision making. With that said, entering into a profession that you don't have the experience to support it does nothing to elevate your career but certainly does much to undermine the APN profession when costly mistakes are made (and yes, it happens regularly). Lastly, allow me to reiterate why I feel eight years of good experience is the benchmark for NP programs. Again, it comes from years of experience of working with NPs with various levels of experience. However, these highly profitable NP programs realize that motivated students are much more likely to continue their education immediately post baccalaureate versus gaining many years of experience, with life changes happening along the way. If you're not familiar with the book, "From Novice To Expert" by Patricia Benner, you'd do well to read it. As I said, nurses lacking in experience are also lacking in critical thinking, which only becomes honed with experience. Thus, to compensate for this lack of these skills and knowledge, NPs will, for example, order every test under the sun as if they're casting a wide net to see what they can drag up. It's incredibly costly and extremely wasteful and only serves to strengthen the argument of physicians opposed to APNs in practice. To be clear, this example only begins to scratch the surface. There are too many reasons to discuss at this point. Also, this post is not meant to be offensive to anyone. However, what little I've written is absolutely spot on and backed by the best NPs around. Thus, if it saves you any trouble, I'm not doing to debate the subject with anyone here as it would be an exercise in futility. Best of luck.