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Hello,

I've failed to get into the nursing program 3 times at this point and my pre-requisite classes are about to expire. I have retaken some classes but best that I could get was an overall 3.4 GPA  and 3.0 science GPA with by my most recent TEAS score being a 90. My parents want to pay for me to go to National University with 100k debt or West Coast University with 140k debt just so I can finish my degree but I don't want to put all that debt and stress on them. They have said that if I don't start my degree just to get out of the house (I know its weird and just mind boggling predicament; I still can't even begin to understand my parents). I want to talk to them about it but they just keep talking about private schools. I have savings but not enough to live on my own. Should I just move out and just redo my classes? I'm thinking of moving out of state. I'm literally tearing apart at the seams, I don't know what I'm doing anymore, I just feel broken. I just want advice for what I should do? Thank you for reading.

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On 1/8/2021 at 3:03 PM, jennys.pennys said:

Hello,

I've failed to get into the nursing program 3 times at this point and my pre-requisite classes are about to expire. I have retaken some classes but best that I could get was an overall 3.4 GPA  and 3.0 science GPA with by my most recent TEAS score being a 90. My parents want to pay for me to go to National University with 100k debt or West Coast University with 140k debt just so I can finish my degree but I don't want to put all that debt and stress on them. They have said that if I don't start my degree just to get out of the house (I know its weird and just mind boggling predicament; I still can't even begin to understand my parents). I want to talk to them about it but they just keep talking about private schools. I have savings but not enough to live on my own. Should I just move out and just redo my classes? I'm thinking of moving out of state. I'm literally tearing apart at the seams, I don't know what I'm doing anymore, I just feel broken. I just want advice for what I should do? Thank you for reading.

Do the national umiversity or west coast option, u don't want to redo all your prereqs again.

FullGlass, BSN, MSN, NP

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On 1/8/2021 at 3:03 PM, jennys.pennys said:

Hello,

I've failed to get into the nursing program 3 times at this point and my pre-requisite classes are about to expire. I have retaken some classes but best that I could get was an overall 3.4 GPA  and 3.0 science GPA with by my most recent TEAS score being a 90. My parents want to pay for me to go to National University with 100k debt or West Coast University with 140k debt just so I can finish my degree but I don't want to put all that debt and stress on them. They have said that if I don't start my degree just to get out of the house (I know its weird and just mind boggling predicament; I still can't even begin to understand my parents). I want to talk to them about it but they just keep talking about private schools. I have savings but not enough to live on my own. Should I just move out and just redo my classes? I'm thinking of moving out of state. I'm literally tearing apart at the seams, I don't know what I'm doing anymore, I just feel broken. I just want advice for what I should do? Thank you for reading.

National or West Coast are not worth that kind of money.  That's crazy.  Your GPA is adequate to get into an ADN program, so do that and save a lot of money, too.  It is far cheaper to retake some prereqs at a community college than go to National or West Coast.  West Coast is terrible.

londonflo

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On 1/8/2021 at 5:03 PM, jennys.pennys said:

I've failed to get into the nursing program 3 times at this point and my pre-requisite classes are about to expire.

 

16 hours ago, FullGlass said:

Your GPA is adequate to get into an ADN program,

Not where I live. ADN programs are even harder to get into than top tier schools... Admissions are cut and dried and 'adequate is not in their vocabulary" . TEAS score, Pre-req GPA,and other not so critical  measurements. Applications outweigh clinical sites and classroom seating every semester and year. . We do not have auditoriums or theaters. We do not have an extensive network of tutoring.  We see a lot of students looking to better their job opportunities where " health care is king". Our community employers support the tuition reimbursement for CNA work, some reasonable schedule  consideration for employment and ADN/BSN tuition.  I believe she is saying she has been turned down for the ADN programs applied to. Perhaps the OP can clarify.

But our programs support our community and this has been seen by grants for nursing structural improvements in terms of classrooms and skills lab. And of course the many "SimLab" donations because donors want to give for durable equipment and it makes a great snip on the news.

OP, if you can negotiate how the tuition is going to be paid, including your parents portion, sign up. You will need to 'be there' when your parents need advice for negotiating through their health care problems and they will be proud of your achievements. 

On the most important point, you will be giving back to your community in many ways. Much more than someone who wanted to avoid any bedside jobs because their eye is on a academic/political prize. 

jennys.pennys

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On 1/12/2021 at 9:08 AM, londonflo said:

 

Not where I live. ADN programs are even harder to get into than top tier schools... Admissions are cut and dried and 'adequate is not in their vocabulary" . TEAS score, Pre-req GPA,and other not so critical  measurements. Applications outweigh clinical sites and classroom seating every semester and year. . We do not have auditoriums or theaters. We do not have an extensive network of tutoring.  We see a lot of students looking to better their job opportunities where " health care is king". Our community employers support the tuition reimbursement for CNA work, some reasonable schedule  consideration for employment and ADN/BSN tuition.  I believe she is saying she has been turned down for the ADN programs applied to. Perhaps the OP can clarify.

But our programs support our community and this has been seen by grants for nursing structural improvements in terms of classrooms and skills lab. And of course the many "SimLab" donations because donors want to give for durable equipment and it makes a great snip on the news.

OP, if you can negotiate how the tuition is going to be paid, including your parents portion, sign up. You will need to 'be there' when your parents need advice for negotiating through their health care problems and they will be proud of your achievements. 

On the most important point, you will be giving back to your community in many ways. Much more than someone who wanted to avoid any bedside jobs because their eye is on a academic/political prize. 

Its actually my parents wanting to pay for the loans full just to get my degree finished. I have tried talk about paying them back but they don't listen and just yell at me to finish Nursing. I just feel too ashamed and guilty to accept their offer because it costs so much. I have a 50/50 amount of people telling me to go/ don't go to private universities and just tearing apart because they're telling me to either attend or get out. I really just want to move out but with my finances, I'll most likely last a month and even if I do make it outside I will probably living in a car struggling to pay for car insurance, heath insurance, etc.( I'm not complaining but this would be the best way to save if I did get kicked out). Should I just accept their offer or just move out on my own? If I accept their offer I feel overwhelmingly guilty but if I move out I will be struggling in a sense.

hayeaston

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It sounds like your parents just want to help you achieve your goals. I would say if you have help, take the help! Getting your degree is difficult enough and once you are a nurse you will be making good money and can pay them back over time. I know it can be hard to accept help but sometimes you have to try to let go of that in order to reach your goals. In my personal opinion, if you're going to be spending that much money, West Coast is probably the better option. They have great relationships with a lot of hospitals so you are almost guaranteed to get a job quickly after graduation (or that's what I've heard from my peers).

National University is a school that I have been considering as well but I'm guessing that we are applying for different types of nursing programs because they program I would be applying for is only around $43,000 for a 22 month program. That's part of the reason that it seemed so appealing but I haven't heard much about their actual program or if they have good relationships with hospitals in the area. Do you have any input on that or do you know anyone that attended the school? 

jennys.pennys

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3 hours ago, hayeaston said:

National University is a school that I have been considering as well but I'm guessing that we are applying for different types of nursing programs because they program I would be applying for is only around $43,000 for a 22 month program. That's part of the reason that it seemed so appealing but I haven't heard much about their actual program or if they have good relationships with hospitals in the area. Do you have any input on that or do you know anyone that attended the school? 

Thanks for your response. It's hard trying to bite the bullet because the last thing I want is to make my parents apart of my problem, Private school was not even on my radar but California nursing programs for me is just constant rejection. I talked with National and thought it would be about $35k but my have two previous coworkers currently going there are saying that even with the prerequisite's completed they are still going to be paying about $80k+ but I think it depends on the amount of classes completed, we all came from the same community college; maybe there were some that we couldn't complete or units weren't transferable

hayeaston

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15 minutes ago, jennys.pennys said:

Thanks for your response. It's hard trying to bite the bullet because the last thing I want is to make my parents apart of my problem, Private school was not even on my radar but California nursing programs for me is just constant rejection. I talked with National and thought it would be about $35k but my have two previous coworkers currently going there are saying that even with the prerequisite's completed they are still going to be paying about $80k+ but I think it depends on the amount of classes completed, we all came from the same community college; maybe there were some that we couldn't complete or units weren't transferable

Hmm well, if you think that it is going to put a strain on your relationship with your parents then maybe it isn't the best idea. Regardless of what anyone advises, you're the only one that knows your relationship with them. Perhaps I misunderstood your situation. I was under the impression that your parents have the money to spare and they just want to help you move forward in your career. If you feel that you're going to be stretching your parents financially, then that is a completely different story. I apologize if I misunderstood. You just have to really analyze what's going to be the best situation for you. If you truly feel that retaking the classes would be best for you, then that's what you should do. Everyone's journey will look a little different. My personal opinion is that the sooner you can finish up school and begin working as a nurse, the better. But I completely understand wanting to pay your own way through school. You just have to weigh the pros and cons of both! Either way, you're doing great. This path can be extremely discouraging but just keep pushing and you'll get there!

 

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On 1/8/2021 at 5:03 PM, jennys.pennys said:

They have said that if I don't start my degree just to get out of the house (I know its weird and just mind boggling predicament; I still can't even begin to understand my parents)

 

On 1/8/2021 at 5:03 PM, jennys.pennys said:

I'm thinking of moving out of state.

Is this what you want to do and go where? There are other colleges (non profit) instate and out of state. What about those?

On 1/8/2021 at 5:03 PM, jennys.pennys said:

 My parents want to pay for me to go to National University with 100k debt or West Coast University with 140k debt just so I can finish my degree but I don't want to put all that debt and stress on them.

They are willing to pay and know the amount of $, What is the problem?

On 1/8/2021 at 5:03 PM, jennys.pennys said:

my pre-requisite classes are about to expire.

 

21 hours ago, jennys.pennys said:

I talked with National and thought it would be about $35k but my have two previous coworkers currently going there are saying that even with the prerequisite's completed they are still going to be paying about $80k+ but I think it depends on the amount of classes completed,

Your parents have acknowledged the amount of tuition that will need to be paid. If you have to retake science courses you will spend more time and money. 

Do you really, in your soul want to be a nurse?