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Don't touch that!

Do any of you have problems with doctors coming into rooms and changing things without telling you and then leaving the room? If so, how do you deal with this?

We have been having increasing problems with this-docs come and and change IVs, remove tubes (foleys, NGTs), or (our unit's favorites) disconnect the patient from a pacemaker! Whenever we see it we call them on it, but it doesn't seem to be helping.

We finally had an issue really yesterday. I had a patient that was POD #6 from an AVR/CABG x1 who had been on amio gtt for afib (had her during nights and the issue came up on days). She finally converted to SR at approx 0830, but then went into 3rd degree block (which she was in when she came out of surgery) around 0930. So the day nurse hooked up her AV wires (still in from surg) and set her at a rate of 50 for which she was 100% paced. The surgeon came in and was told the patient was placed back on the pacer and why. The nurse got called away while the doc was in seeing the patient, and a few minutes later the daughter of the patient comes out calling for help because the patient went nonresponsive (and asystolic)! Turns out the surgeon had just turned off her pacemaker and walked out. (Luckily he was still on the floor when the code was called and was able to see what he did!)

I'm just getting frustrated with doc's doing this sort of thing, and leaving it up to us to "figure it out" or fix whatever they've done. I just want to smack their hands and tell them "don't touch that!", but I know I can't! :) What do you do when things like this come up?

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Is it even legal for ANYONE, Dr or Nurse to change a pts treatment without documentation?

Is it even legal for ANYONE, Dr or Nurse to change a pts treatment without documentation?

Documentation is the name of the game, even if it's standing order.

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