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Direct Entry Programs- How hard to get in?

Thanks for all of your responses to all of my previous posts. As you probably assume, I'm evaluating all of my options including ADN, BSN, and Direct-Entry MSN. The direct entry programs look extremely appealing, but seeing that they are at the best of colleges, I don't know how easy they are to get in.

Does anyone know what the typical GPA, scores, acceptance rates of these programs are? Anyone have any experience applying?

I'm in MD, so I'd consider Hopkins, but Columbia, MGHI in Mass, Case Western, Vanderbilt, Pace, and Yale also look appealing.

Seeing as nursing traditionally isn't an "ivy league" profession, are the credentials required for these programs less than what a typical "ivy" student would need?

I'd love to hear experiences with any programs.........

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Hi everyone,

I've been reading the "coolness vs warmness" posts and I think the coolness comes from all the schools knowing that they have the upper hand and the warmness comes from the wise ones knowing that even though they have more applicants than they need, if they want to attract the best applicants, they have to be warm to all of the applicants to some extent since they don't know who they are yet, and the best applicants may get more than one offer. Of course when I say "best," I assume you all understand I think we're all incredibly valuable, but according to whatever the school thinks is best. Then I agree, the rest is probably the culture of the organization or the personality of the people involved. If the people involved aren't that warm, then they're not likely to be warm, or if they tend to feel overwhelmed or panicked by the thought of being overwhelmed by so many eager applicants' contacting them all the time, they might be aloof. But I think the warmer approach tends to lead to providing a better exchange of information which is the point of these infosessions and any other contacts with the school.

About Vanderbilt, I just read on another thread that someone (Big

Ranger) in Kentucky got his acceptance letter yesterday. Smile123 was there on that thread, too. So the mail from TN to KY is much faster than from TN to CA. I've written him to see when he applied also.

I've got to go back to studying muscles, bones, and the integumentary system for my exam today!

Good luck everyone who's still waiting at the mailbox today. Keep enjoying those celebrations for all who've gotten in. :coollook:

I couldn't have said it better re warmness/coolness. Are any others going to Seattle University (WA)? From my experiences as an applicant I'd say they fall into the "wise" category - the funny thing is, if you go purely by the "numbers" of slots versus applicants they are actually the most competitive BSN (I don't know about MEPN) program in this region, yet not once did the advisors/faculty exude the uncaring aloof vibes......

If anyone else is looking at Northwest, take a serious look at them. PM me if you're going there maybe we can meet up before school starts :)

Hi everyone,

I've been reading the "coolness vs warmness" posts and I think the coolness comes from all the schools knowing that they have the upper hand and the warmness comes from the wise ones knowing that even though they have more applicants than they need, if they want to attract the best applicants, they have to be warm to all of the applicants to some extent since they don't know who they are yet, and the best applicants may get more than one offer. Of course when I say "best," I assume you all understand I think we're all incredibly valuable, but according to whatever the school thinks is best. Then I agree, the rest is probably the culture of the organization or the personality of the people involved. If the people involved aren't that warm, then they're not likely to be warm, or if they tend to feel overwhelmed or panicked by the thought of being overwhelmed by so many eager applicants' contacting them all the time, they might be aloof. But I think the warmer approach tends to lead to providing a better exchange of information which is the point of these infosessions and any other contacts with the school.

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I just got my letter from UCSF and I am #1 alternate for the Gerontological NP program. I feel so bad. I dread telling my family and friends . . .

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I just got my letter from UCSF and I am #1 alternate for the Gerontological NP program. I feel so bad. I dread telling my family and friends . . .

Oh Seahorse ... I'm so sorry to hear that. :crying2: You are at least number 1 on the list ... there is still a very high probability that space will open up.

Keep your head up ... good luck !!

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I just got my letter from UCSF and I am #1 alternate for the Gerontological NP program. I feel so bad. I dread telling my family and friends . . .

Oh Seahorse- I'm so sorry :( :crying2: :( :crying2:

The good thing is that you are the #1 alternate. You have a good chance of getting in yet. Can you ask the admissions staff what the chances are of getting in off the waitlist based on previous years?

Try to keep your head up but that is so frustrating- I'm really :crying2: for you.

Jess

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I just got my letter from UCSF and I am #1 alternate for the Gerontological NP program. I feel so bad. I dread telling my family and friends . . .

I'm sorry, seahorse. Still, stiff upper lip. You've come a long way, done a lot, and there's still hope! Your family and friends better be supportive of you or we'll all give them a talking to.

Oh Seahorse- I'm so sorry :( :crying2: :( :crying2:

The good thing is that you are the #1 alternate. You have a good chance of getting in yet. Can you ask the admissions staff what the chances are of getting in off the waitlist based on previous years?

Try to keep your head up but that is so frustrating- I'm really :crying2: for you.

Jess

Thanks so much Jess. I took your advice and called. I found out that typically 7 of the alternates are brought in each year, so maybe there still is hope. I found out that the Gerontological NP specialty only got three people this year. I don't know how many were interviewed, but I did meet at least 5 others on my interview day.

If anyone has any suggestions or knows anything about the process please let me know. I wish I had asked more about how this altnerate business works, but I was too upset to think straight. With only 3 in Gerontological NP, it's hard to imagine any of them declining.

I'm also on the wait list at SF State. sigh.

I'm sorry, seahorse. Still, stiff upper lip. You've come a long way, done a lot, and there's still hope! Your family and friends better be supportive of you or we'll all give them a talking to.

Thanks Chris.

You're right there still is hope :rolleyes: Good luck to you!

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I just got my letter from UCSF and I am #1 alternate for the Gerontological NP program. I feel so bad. I dread telling my family and friends . . .

Seahorse,

You are #1 on the waitlist, so that's a good sign! Think about the others who applied for your gerontological program; perhaps they are from back east and want to go to school closer to home. There's still hope! I am sending positive vibes your way! Big hugs to you!

Do you have any others outstanding besides UCSF and SFSU?

Smile123

Seahorse,

You are #1 on the waitlist, so that's a good sign! Think about the others who applied for your gerontological program; perhaps they are from back east and want to go to school closer to home. There's still hope! I am sending positive vibes your way! Big hugs to you!

Do you have any others outstanding besides UCSF and SFSU?

Smile123

Hi Smile,

I am also applying to College of San Mateo. Thanks for the support.

Thanks so much Jess. I took your advice and called. I found out that typically 7 of the alternates are brought in each year, so maybe there still is hope. I found out that the Gerontological NP specialty only got three people this year. I don't know how many were interviewed, but I did meet at least 5 others on my interview day.

If anyone has any suggestions or knows anything about the process please let me know. I wish I had asked more about how this altnerate business works, but I was too upset to think straight. With only 3 in Gerontological NP, it's hard to imagine any of them declining.

I'm also on the wait list at SF State. sigh.

So, are the alternates brought on board by specialty as well? Meaning, does one of those gerentological NPs have to decline for a spot to open up for you? Even if that is the case you have an excellent chance as smile123 points out. Maybe one of those three wants to stay closer to home, etc. Also, maybe finances won't work out for one of them. I know things are pretty up in the air for me financially- I have to see where I get in anf if I get any aid before knowing if it's all going to work. Who knows, you know? There are so many variables- I have my fingers crossed and am saying prayers for you.

One way to look at it is that they certainly can accomodate more than 3 geri NP students- so the whole admit based on specialty really isn't about capacity when it comes to your track. If I were you, I would write a letter to the head of your specialty and the dean of the MEPN today reenforcing how much you would like the opportunity and specifically why you would be an asset to your class, etc etc. I really think it can't hurt and would take maybe 20 min of your time. And if it helped- how cool would that be!

Hang in there!

Jess

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