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  1. @RN2b2018: I bought the ATI TEAS Study Manual - Sixth Edition from a bookstore. I'm sure you can find one on amazon, too. @jgil01: There is one practice test in the study manual divided into sections. So the book starts with the reading section study tips with a reading section practice test. The book follows the same format for math, then science, and lastly English. I'd recommend just taking the written practice test as a gauge to see what you need to study, and take an online practice test from ATI as your final practice before the exam. @classof2019: I actually would have saved at least one of those two practice tests for after you study. That way you can get a true idea of where you'll be. I can almost promise you'll remember some of the answers when you take the test again, but as long as that doesn't bother you or give you a false sense of hope, you should be okay. I think my friends used the TEAS VI Secrets book. I honestly waited until the last minute to start studying and couldn't feasibly get through such a large textbook, but if you have at least 3 weeks, you should be able to get through that one too. Sorry for the late responses; I was on vacation! Good luck you guys!
  2. I don't think I'd recommend taking the TEAS VI without A&P. The vast majority of the science section was A&P. However, your school does only require a 63, which honestly, if you do all right in the other 3 sections, can allow for a poor science section. That said, I don't think anyone who is applying to nursing school should ever be shooting for the minimum. Our future jobs are to help people and be responsible for their livelihood, so we should be aiming for 100% every single time. If you really want to forego taking A&P before the TEAS, but you want a good study guide on A&P, look up "Armando Hasudungan" on YouTube. Learn all of his A&P related videos. Just to help you out, look for things about skin (integumentary), lymphatic (immune), circulatory (cardiovascular), respiratory, urinary, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, endocrine, and reproductive systems. I'm not too sure how helpful he will be without you having had been lectured on the topics, but his videos helped me get through my A&P classes, so hopefully they can help you too! Good luck.
  3. So I stopped by the nursing building today between my classes today to ask when we should be receiving e-mails. All the secretary said was that they should come out mid-December (what does that even mean?) and that the e-mails should trickle out over a week. So if your friends get their e-mail first, don't worry; yours will come too! GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!
  4. I took the ACT almost a decade ago, so I don't know if the format for the test has changed. From my experience though, the ACT (and SAT) is significantly harder than the TEAS. They're not really even in the same realm of testing. The study tips I gave you may help, but the amount of studying for the ACT and the difficulty of questions on the ACT runs circles around this test. You essentially have the same amount of time on the ACT as the TEAS, but the ACT has more questions, and the questions test your fluency in the subject matter much more. Like the TEAS, the ACT isn't trying to trick you, particularly in the math section. That said, the passages for reading is much harder, the vocab is much harder, the math is much harder, the grammar is much harder, and the science (essentially critical thinking and graph-reading skills) is much harder. If you've recently studied for the ACT and performed well on it, I'd argue that the you don't even need to look at the reading, math, and grammar sections on the TEAS.
  5. I think that if there were conversions on the test, they gave you the conversion factors. You don't have to memorize them. For example, if they give you a temp. question, they'll give you that F = (9/5)C + 32. I'd say the vocab is about on par with the SAT vocab, but the context with which they give you the word is much easier. I also thought the answer choices were much more cut-and-dry for these types of questions than their equivalents on the SAT. Knowing your roots will definitely come in handy, and it's something that I focus on whenever I can because it crops up so often in medical terminology. I reckon it wouldn't hurt to take that first practice test as soon as you can so you can see where you are. If you score relatively low, then obviously start your studying a couple months in advance. If you score relatively well, I honestly don't see the purpose in dragging out a week's worth of studying over months. Bide your time, and then study hard about a week and a half before the exam. You know you better than anyone on this forum knows you. If you know that you are a slow learning in something more conceptual like math, take that into consideration and give yourself more time. The science part is probably the hardest section on the test (and correct me if I'm wrong, but it's also the lowest scoring portion on the test) in that you'll either know the information or not know the information. While you can kind of eliminate some answer choices from pure test-taking strategies, this is hands down the most fact-heavy section. I'd recommend taking the TEAS as soon as you can after your A&P courses. That means take your A&P courses, take the proper measures to study for the test, and go for it. These facts will be the first to deteriorate from your memory, whereas the other 3 sections are more concept-based, and are easier to "figure out" while in the test.
  6. I'll admit that there were a few questions I was shaky on, but maybe I got lucky and they were the survey questions. Yep! I'm Korean!
  7. I've been seeing a plethora of "Help me study for the TEAS VI" posts on the forum lately, and for good reason. It's a new version of the test; it's uncharted territory; it's scary. I mean, after all, this test is supposed to determine our fate? Some schools will only take our first passing score? Let me say this first: the better the student you were in your classes, the easier this test will be. I know this seems a bit obvious to say, but you will have to take an honest look at yourself and understand why some of your peers will have to study very little to succeed while some of your peers will have to study for months to succeed. Onto what you probably want to know. I'll separate by general steps to do well and then sections by my individual scores. Then I'll briefly talk about how hard the test is. Lastly, some general test-taking tips I'll be upfront and say this: I didn't study much for this test. Minus the practice exams I took, I studied for about 6 hours. You may need more time, you may need less. I am a tutor for A&P and I have a strong math background, so really I was only studying for two sections. I only bought the ATI TEAS VI Study Manual, and one ATI online practice test to study. Literally everything is covered by the Study Manual. Yeah, there are some mistakes in it. You can find the corrections online. It's still an immense study resource. STEP 1: Buy the ATI TEAS VI study manual and buy at least one extra online practice exam This is not a plug. I'm not paid or anything to say this. I'm telling you exactly what I did. Honestly, that manual covers 100% of what's on the exam. Aside from this and your notes from A&P, you will need nothing more to prepare for this exam. STEP 2: Take a PRACTICE EXAM before studying This seems scary, but just do it. I just did the practice section tests at the end of each section on my study manual to see where I was. This step is crucial in saving you study time. I missed a TON of reading questions, and I missed quite a few English sections. I missed very few math questions, and very few science questions. By taking the practice exam, you'll know exactly what areas you'll need to focus on to make the greatest improvements in the shortest amounts of time. STEP 3: Study your Weaknesses No one likes doing this. It's uncomfortable, and it's so easy to fall into the lull of studying what you know well as positive reinforcement. Well stop it. Be uncomfortable now while you study so that you can be confident when you walk into your test. For me, this was reading. I loathe reading. My short attention span can't absorb long passages. It was a real struggle for me to focus, but I knew that if I couldn't overcome this hurdle while preparing for the exam, I would be in deep trouble when test day came around. Deal with the pain now, so you can achieve glory later. STEP 4: Brush up on your STRENGTHS After your brain feels like mush, quickly review your non-problem areas so that they don't become weaknesses. An example for me was this: I only studied for 30 minutes for the math section because I happen to love math and be pretty decent at it. I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't missing any detail in the manual that I didn't think would be covered on the test. STEP 5: Two nights before, take your LAST PRACTICE EXAM Up until this point, you should have made your weaknesses into not too much of weaknesses. Heck, maybe you've turned them into strengths. You should have also reinforced your strengths, so you should be well rounded to take the exam. Try to emulate your test-taking environment. My TEAS VI was online, so I took an online test. I found a quiet room. I gave myself time limits. I used scratch paper; I used the online calculator; I used #2 pencils. Anything I could replicate, I did. Taking the practice exam in a loud room wouldn't give me a good idea of how well I could take the test. Giving myself too much time wouldn't either. Be honest with yourself. This is a period of assessment. This isn't your real score, so there's no point in lying to yourself to make you feel better. It's only going to make you disappointed when the real thing comes around. STEP 6: Right after, REVIEW what you got wrong Sometimes, you just make silly mistakes. Sometimes time gets in the way. Sometimes your problem areas are still going to be problem areas. It happens. Just skim through the concepts that are giving you some trouble and do a quick, last-minute study over it. Really, this final practice test gives you an idea of how to pace yourself through the exam and to troubleshoot some last-minute issues. STEP 7: REST the night before test I'm a firm believer in not cramming. I think it's pretty detrimental, and if you've taken your studying seriously, you should be a bit burnt out. Let your mind take a break before you take the TEAS. Mental fatigue is real; don't let it happen to you. STEP 8: Take the TEAS TEST You've prepared yourself. You've learned all you could learn. You've felt out how the test will feel in terms of time and in terms of difficulty. Trust yourself. Relax. Make sure to read your questions, and do your thing. MY RESULTSREADING: 91.5% (95th percentile)So this was my worst section, but I think that I can still give you some tips to focus on. These are BROAD IDEAS. Really, the study manual covers each concept enough for you to be ready for the exam. Main idea, topic sentences, etc.What type of passage is it?Opinion vs fact.What do you find in a Table of Contents, Index, etc.?What are conclusions you can draw based off evidence from the passage?Following instructions. Rotating shapes, manipulating letter sequences, etc. The manual covers these well.Really, this section is about how well you can concentrate for a bit of time. My exam was online, so I didn't have to luxury of underlining my passages. I had to rely on my scratch paper. I'd write flow charts as I was reading, jot down key terms I thought would be useful, and anything else I thought would make it easier to answer questions without referring back to the passage over and over again. I think the scratch paper was my biggest friend. Also, skim the questions before reading the passage so you have an general idea of where you have to focus your attention. MATH: 100% (99th percentile)There wasn't really anything I struggled with per-se, but while taking the test, It was evident that the crux of this section is your ability to set up a problem correctly. It's not so focused on basic arithmetic because you have a calculator. PEMDAS or order of operations. KNOW IT KNOW IT KNOW IT.Word problems. Know how to set up a problem. You're not going to get many (3x + 6 = 12) type questions. It'll be more like (If a buy-in at a poker table is 6 dollars, and each hand costs 3 dollars, how many hands can you play with 12 dollars?)Add, difference, of, per, etc. Know what these terms mean.Areas and perimeters of basic shapes. Basic geometry.Learn how to read graphs. This means knowing general bell curves, skews, etc.Percentages to decimals to fractionsWhich fraction/decimal is bigger?Again, focus on CONCEPTS. Just because the manual gives an example of an area of a triangle doesn't mean you should neglect how to get the area of a square or the perimeter for that matter. If it's in the manual, know it! Math is tricky, and it's unfortunate because it's just super hard until it finally clicks. It's just a miserable path until it does click. SCIENCE: 100% (99th percentile)Know your A&P. Know your punnet squares. Know your basic chemistry. Really, this section is testing your BASIC A&P knowledge. I've read some ludicrous comments that this section is detailed. Let's square this away real quick. There's about 40 questions to cover 11 organ systems. There simply aren't enough questions for this test to really be that specific. Know your gross anatomy and basic physiology. Yes, you'll have to know your hormone pathways and things like epinephrine and norepinephrine stimulate a sympathetic response. No, you will not need to know that epinephrine and norepinephrine can both use cAMP and PIP3. FOCUS on your 11 organ systems. I'd even go so far as to say review your notes about each organ system.Punnet squaresElements: atomic mass, number, protons, neutrons, electronsGeneral chemical reactionsStudy your organ systems hard. Focus on gross anatomy and really basic physiology. If I can confide in you guys, I found this section pretty easy. I heard horrors about how detailed it was, so I focused on petty things major sensory tracts in nervous, when really I just needed to know neuron anatomy, and maybe a spinal cord cross section (what goes in each horn and root). I still reckon that the study manual covers what you need to know. ENGLISH: 100% (99th percentile)Oh boy, this was also a weakness of mine, but fortunately grammar has very distinct rules that have a definitive right and wrong. I'm going to say this, from the myriad of papers you've written, your grammar is not as bad as you think. I'm assuming most of you guys are native English speakers; use that to your advantage in this section, particularly with the subject-verb agreement stuff. Subject-verb agreement. Be sure you can isolate the subject and the verb to make them match up. They'll put some tricky clauses to try and slip you up. Don't fall for itWhat makes a simple/compound/complex sentence?COMMASSEMICOLONSWho/whom or they're/their/thereContext clues to define wordsReally, there are only a few rules in grammar you need to know. I'd google the 12 grammar rules for the SAT if you want an in-depth study guide for grammar. I think the study manual does a good job still. How hard is it relative to practice tests?It's about as hard as the ATI practice tests. I think they were excellent barometers for the real thing. If I had to equate a difficulty, I'd say it's about as hard as the high school exit exam, but it also has an A&P section. So, if you've taken the SAT or ACT, both are significantly harder tests. I feel like if you're capable of getting a good grade through the A&P courses, you have the study methods and tenacity to study to excel on the TEAS. General test taking strategiesMake sure you read your questions fully. Make sure you utilize good test-taking strategies. Eliminate wrong answer choices. Pick the "most right" answer. Don't be afraid to skip questions. If you don't know the answer, might as well use that time to answer questions you CAN figure out instead of spending 5 minutes to ultimately guess. DO NOT SECOND GUESS YOUR GUT INSTINCT. ONLY CHANGE ANSWERS IF YOU READ THE QUESTION OR ANSWER WRONG. Most of all, relax. This test isn't trying to make you fail. It's a baseline to see how well you can do in these fields. Thanks for reading all of this. Good luck on your studies and exams!
  8. If you got a 68 on the V, you're probably going to get around a 68 on the VI unless you're actively studying to improve your weaknesses. My friend took the V and got a low 90s and wanted to improve on that score by taking the VI. Low and behold, he got a low 90s again. This was also someone who did very well on A&P and has an engineering degree. So theoretically the VI was in his favor due to his excellence in A&P and the fact that the math was a "gimme" section for him. That said, he didn't really study much more for the VI, and improving on a low 90% score is harder than improving on a 68%. That's not an offense to you, it's just that there are more opportunities for you to increase your score whereas he only had small places that he could try and focus on. I'd try to really reflect on what caused you to get a 68 (or what caused you to NOT get a 78). What sections gave you the most trouble? Was it the science on the V? Well good for you because that whole section got a re-vamp to be focused on A&P, which are classes you have to pass to get into nursing school anyway. This, again, may be in your favor. Basically, try to look at what you got wrong, and see where you can make the biggest changes across the smallest amount of time. Maybe you missed all your fractions on math. FOCUS ON FRACTIONS. Missed all your big-passage sections? Honestly, go big. Try some SAT or ACT practice passages too. They're both significantly harder than the TEAS, and if you can manage your way around those, then the TEAS should be cake. Take your practice tests like they're the real thing. This means, if you're taking a pencil-and-paper test, FIND PENCIL-AND-PAPER PRACTICE EXAMS. If you're taking an online test, FIND ONLINE EXAMS. Get used to not being able to scribble on your passages and relying on scratch paper. Get used to clicking answers and clicking the calculator. These are all variables that you can practice controlling as you study. Lastly, just practice good test-taking strategy. Find any way to eliminate impossible answers. That way, if you DO have to guess, you give yourself a better chance of getting it right. Read the whole question. Make sure to spot any "nots" or "false" or "synonym" or "antonym" in the questions. Make sure if the question is asking about an area of something, you don't use a perimeter formula to solve for it. You know a lot more than you give yourself credit for, and the TEAS isn't trying to trick you. It's a short, 150 question test to see how much you know about basic reading comprehension, basic math, basic A&P, and basic grammar. So treat it as such. Don't overanalyze. Just go in knowing your stuff and relax and breath. You have almost 4 hours to take the test. A lot of students said they finished in around 2 hrs to 2 hrs and 30 min. I don't think anyone took the full time. You've taken numerous classes that went way more in-depth than this test does. You're ready. You can do it. Just focus on your weaknesses now so that you walk into the test with none.
  9. Bought the TEAS study manual, and one online practice test. Before I started studying the manual, I did the test portion at the end of each section as a pre-study barometer of what I needed to study in the manual. Then I studied the manual. Then I did the one online test I bought. Then I took the test. As long as your critical thinking is decent, I think there should be no surprises when it comes to the test. It's about as hard as the study manual was. No, the questions weren't EXACTLY the same, but they were about the same difficulty. There wasn't anything CONCEPTWISE that was on the actual TEAS that wasn't covered in their manual.
  10. I had transcripts from three other institutions, so my application was a bit hectic. I sent over all my official transcripts to RCC. I had my schools do that for me, so that there was no way I could tamper with them. Really, this part doesn't matter as long as the envelope says "official transcript" on it and it's unopened. Then, I made a counseling appointment with the nursing department at RCC. At that appointment, we worked side-by-side to make sure all my courses were accounted for. For example, I ended up needing to order in my AP scores (which was a whole different ordeal) for English even though my high school transcript had my AP score on it, and I was pardoned by my university from their beginning writing courses because of that AP score (also on my university transcript). Basically, you can't over-prepare, and I'd just turn in everything that had a grade on it to RCC. Their goal is to make sure the course numbers from your other institutions match up with RCC's, so do everything you can to make their lives easier. I think I ended up turning in 5 transcripts: high school, 2 community college transcripts, my university transcripts, and my AP scores.
  11. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure RCC in particular only takes your first passing score. I know J_____ told me to make sure that if I'm taking the TEAS, I should aim to really make it count.
  12. Also not a lady, but I'll check in as well. I took A&P II with Micro at the same time, and it was a rough semester. If I wasn't in class, lab, or eating a meal, I was basically studying. I got very strong As in both classes, but you need to understand that to be successful in both courses, you're going to have to pour in a ton of work. I'd conservatively say you need around 30 hours a week of EXTRA STUDY TIME to nab As in both courses. This means time outside of lecture and lab. Good luck. It's totally possible, just be ready to make some social/sleep sacrifices.
  13. For those of us who took the TEAS at RCC, how do we send the school our scores? I think historically, 70-75 points gets you in. My buddy said that last spring was a weirdly strong pool of applicants, and even 80 points didn't keep you safe.
  14. I found this test to be about on par with the High School Exit Exam, plus a science section, which if we're going to be completely honest, is pretty basic A&P. I'd say to take a preliminary practice test so you can see where you need to raise your scores the most. Try to simulate a testing environment to the best of your abilities. For example, I knew mine was going to be on a computer, so I did an online ATI practice test. Try to find a quiet room with no distractions. I didn't do this, and my practice score wasn't really indicative of my true abilities. Delve into your weak points as much as possible. Take notes, underline important tips, learn key terms. This is the test that helps determine if you're going to get into nursing school, so treat it as such. The program I want to get into takes your FIRST PASSING SCORE. Of course, it may be different from institution to institution, but I knew that I couldn't take the test just to "feel it out". Reading My biggest hurdle was the Reading Section. I hate comprehension, but I would say, focus on what is directly in the passage. Don't try and extrapolate information unless the question asks for a logical conclusion of some sort. I spent about 4 hours studying for this section. Math I love math. My degree is in engineering, so I was swamped with numbers and variables for five years. I'd say this section is the easiest to lose points because the calculator is useless if you don't know how to set up problems. Check your work every time. I think I spent a couple minutes reviewing simple formulas I forgot like the area of a trapezoid. Science Unfortunately (or fortunately), this section is a "you know it, or you don't" section. I found it to be heavy on A&P, but the questions weren't that in-depth. We have 11 organ systems, and only 40-something questions on the test to cover them all. They're not going to test you on the hormone pathway of X hormone and the effect that Y hormone has on it, resulting in the release of Z hormone. It's about as straight forward as the ATI guide is. Brush up on some chemistry and bio (namely Punnet Squares), but most of your time should be spent on A&P. I did really well on my A&P sections, and I am a tutor on campus for both sections at the moment, so I only spent about 30 minutes studying for this section. English I wrote so many papers in university that I didn't have to study the rules for grammar at all. What I did have to study was the names of the rules for grammar. What does a complex sentence have? What is a compound sentence? What is a simple predicate? If I told you the answers to those, you'd probably know. Native speakers have the advantage of knowing when a sentence sounds a bit off. Figure out why. At the same time, it's a double-edged sword, so things like "who vs whom" can be a bit confusing. I spent about an hour just skimming the ATI study guide and covering the definitions of rules. Finally, I took a different practice test from the one I took before I started studying. No use taking a test when you know all the right answers already. Again, I simulated a test environment, and I did significantly better than when I took my pre-study test. I just relaxed the night before my actual test, showed up, and took care of business. I did a lot better than I thought I would, and I think it had to do with just being relaxed throughout the test. It seems like you're on a good pace to do well. I got an 88% on my final practice test (mainly because I didn't feel like reading the passages), but I got a 97.3% on my actual TEAS. Hopefully the trend of doing better on the real thing happens to you (and everyone else) too! Also, if you did well on your ACT, you should really only have to study for the A&P and maybe the names of the grammar rules. Let's face it: the passages for reading are much longer on the ACT, the math is much more complicated on the ACT, and the grammar is much more nuanced on the ACT. This doesn't even include the fact that mental fatigue is way higher on the ACT since the sections are over 1.5 times longer. The TEAS is about as difficult as the practice tests ATI provides, so I think they're good a good read to see how you will do on your actual exam. Good luck!
  15. Took the TEAS VI on this past Friday (Nov 4). Got my scores back. Honestly, I did way better than I expected to do. I got a 97.3% overall. Reading: 91.5% (95th percentile) I was never good at reading comprehension because sometimes I feel like the answers are so open-ended. I never know how much I need to infer from material. It was always a case of, "Do I keep digging in deeper for clues, or am I going on too far of a stretch right here?" I knew this would be my worst section, and I was actually thrilled to have done as well as I did. As for tips, I'd say use your scratch paper. I basically scribbled outlines of the passage as I went down. Flow charts with the topic and main idea at the top, and I branched from there with the supporting evidence and details. Even with my extremely slow writing speed, and the fact that I hate reading and lose focus easily, I finished the section in about 45 minutes. Don't be afraid to take your time. As long as you're concentrating the full time, I think there is ample time in this section to answer every question. Math: 100% (99th percentile) Confession time: I have an engineering degree. As such, math comes pretty easily to me. Having a calculator is a bonus, but I feel like you need to know how to set up problems or else you will get the wrong answer, even with a calculator. I finished this section in about 20 minutes, so I decided to mess around with some of the problems to see how the wrong answer choices could be contrived. Make sure you know your PEMDAS, or order of operations. Make sure you know what words mean (sum, difference, of, etc.). Make sure you can set up problems. My buddy, who is not good at math, studied a lot for this portion and did pretty darn well. This section doesn't test your ability to do arithmetic with HUGE HUGE numbers (and even if it did, you have a calculator); it's just trying to gauge your ability to set up a problem, which is something you could surely see as being useful for dosages in nursing school. Science: 100% (99th percentile) I'd have to agree with the poster above. Science is either you know it, or you don't. I worked very, very hard for my grades in A&P. What that entailed was this: don't study for grades on your tests; study to learn anatomy and physiology. I was always ready to take our exams at least a week prior because I studied hard every day. I never crammed, and fortunately that meant that a lot of the information stuck in my long-term memory. I honestly spent about 30 minutes skimming through the test guide for my science study. Honestly, if you have a good grasp of A&P you should have absolutely no problem with this section. I think the skimming helped though; there were a few minor details I forgot, and the study guide definitely helped. If you're a bit shaky on A&P, make sure to read through your notes when you took this class. English: 100% (99th percentile) Grammar is something that actually comes a lot easier to us than we'd like to give credit for. The problem is that when a test asks you for the name of the rules that governs grammar. Silly things like "What's the simple subject?". We all know what it is, we just may not know that it is referred to as the simple subject. Read up on comma and semicolon uses because I think that's what tripped most people up. Give yourself the benefit of the doubt, particularly for you native speakers. We instantly know when a sentence sounds funky; we may not know why, but we know that it's a bit off. Rely on that crutch if you need to. General Test-Taking Strategies I hate taking online tests. I love writing on my exams and underlining key words. That said, I used my scratch paper to the point that it looked like a word mural or something. Looked pretty cool. Maybe that's not your thing, but I think it saved me having scratch paper to work with, even on the Reading and English sections. Don't be afraid to skip problems and come back to them. I'd write the number I wasn't sure about on my scratch paper with a star or something, so I knew to revisit the problem when I got to the end of the section. If you don't know the answer, don't waste your time sitting there when you can use that time to answer questions you do know. If you're going to have to guess at it, leave it to the end when you've answered everything you could with your knowledge. Final Thoughts I'd say this exam is about as hard as the Final Exit Exam from high school, barring the A&P. I probably spent about 6 hours total studying for this exam, most of which was concentrated on the Reading section. This wasn't fun at all. I hate reading comprehension, and I would have much rather have focused on science, math, and grammar, but that would have been an inefficient use of my study time. No one likes studying stuff that is hard, but ignoring it won't make it magically disappear come test day. Put yourself through the uncomfortable study time, so that when you take the test, it will be less comfortable. Good luck to everyone, and if you've made it this far through my post, thanks for reading!

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