Tabbymouse

After dealing wtih WCCCD I made up my mind to take an LPN class. I go to DBI and talk to them. Even AFTER pell grants and loans I'd owe then something like 2700, with almost 200 down (not counting the 100 registration fee), and 160 a month every month I'm in school. As it is now I can't afford that, and there's no way I could work as much as I work now AND go to school as much as they have classes scheduled. The woman at DBI was very nice, and told me to go to Michigan Works to see if they could help with paying for the classes. Welp, I was told IF I was accepted into thier program, and IF they had money they would pay up to 5000 of my tuition...AFTER 3/4 of the program was over to make sure I actually graduate. Oh, and since the pay out would be scheduled for Sep/Oct there's no promise they would even HAVE any money by then. Untill then I would still need to pay the money each month. But they did tell me to try contacting HPOG. HPOG says I need to be within 130% of the poverty line. I haven't even went to thier orientation becuase I know I make more then that *barely*. Today I got confirmation when the caseworker from Michigan Works called me up. I make $500 to much...a year! Aparently $10 an hour avg. of 35 hours a week is more then enough to live on! I'm really not sure what to do any more. I live in Southgate and I don't knwo of any other schools close to me.I don't EVER want to go back to WCCCD, and since I borrow a car I don't think HF would work out well either. I jsut feel liek I worked so hard for nothing.

Because DBI is literally a mile from my house so I don't have to wrry about traffic and weather so much when it comes to getting to/from class

Yeah, I did notice the HIGH cost of LPN programs but...it's a mix of factors leading to my choice, the biggest one is time. A month ago I rushed my mom to the ER becuase she was cyanotic - she spent a week on a ventolator and for a little while we didn't know which way she would go. If she has another issue like that, and doesn't make it...I won't be able to afford to go to classes. It's more expensive, but if I do a short term LPN program then I can start working as quickly as possible and bridge when things settle down. PLus the closest school to me is WCCCD and...NO. That school has screwed me over twice already, (including a complete major change), and I;m currently dealing with a nutters instructor who is pushing his harmful views into the classroom.

I filed a complaint with the campus administration, but...it is WCCCD...there's nothing they can or will do this semester, and acording to his sylabus, this is like his 15th year teaching at the school so I;m not sure how much my complaint will even do. I did tell the ladies in the office why I wanted to fly a complaint, and even showed them the passages in the notes that line up with my claim and they quickly got my the form and handed it off to an administrator before I even left the office. I should also say - I don't care what his personal views are. While *I* personally think naturalpathy and homeopathy are bubkis, but if it does no harm, then it doesn't bother me. Hell, I;ve been known to keep peppermint or ginger candy on hand to settle my stomach, or chug some cold coffee during an asthma attack if I can't find my inhaler...but in this setting, we shouldnt' even BE talking about it. I don't understand how blaming AIDS on everything, or promoting anti-vax ideals benefits the students trying to learn about A&P

Hey guys, I;m stumped and I need some help here. I;m currently taking A&P at WCCCD so I can transfer over to another school. I;m currently in A&P 2 and...my instructor is a pure nutter. Lets start off by saying he's a chiropractor and he's "qualified to teach becuase I had to take like 6 anatomy classes and 8 physiology to get my degree". In the last four weeks he has said: The ONLY clotting disorder is hemophillia, Acid-reducing dugs (like Prilosec and TUMS) cause pneumonia*. When I asked him privately why he said that since I have reflux he said Acid reflux/GERD is NOT a legitimate diagnosis, my primary is a quack and just trying to sell drugs if he did diagnosis it, and "most cases there is not enough acid in the stomach" and *if* I truely have reflux the problem is the valve between the esophagus and stomach and not the acid. "TB was nearly eradicated in the 1950's, but is now on the rise due to AIDS"* (I brought in CDC and WHO reports to prove him wrong), he has told a fellow classmate "You should really look at vaccines, you never know what harm the chemicals can cause...just look at the rise of autism!"...and today took the freaking cake! 1)Carbon Monoxide "smells like cherries" and we should only worry if we suddenly smell cherries. 2)Energnacy/rescue inhalers "CAN KILL YOU", but it's ok becuase Asthma can be treated adn CURED by following a specific breathing method and drinking salt water at the start of an attack.* Also mothers should cover the mouth and nose of a child having an attack becuase the "body will realize there's an issue and correct itself" Note: EVERYTHING marked with a * is IN OUR NOTES. He felt these things were important enough that he included them in our notes. I was annoyed at him before, but his aside about asthma pissed me off becuase I AM asthmatic and the fact a teacher would say that could lead to someone being harmed or dying! I left class and reported him to administration, but I have no idea what else to do! When I question about about his crazy notes he tells me "I;m a doctor, you're jsut a student!", when I brought in CDC and WHO reports to disprove his statement about TB being "nearly eradicated" he told me "Thats neat, but it's...like jsut thier stats, not a real study" When I point out inconsistancies, like my boyfriend having a factor V mutation that causes clots - not hemophillia, or having reflux myself and never hearing about the link to pneumonia...he brushes me off and says I'll "learn the truth" in his class.

Right now DBI. I don't want to go to WCCCD thanks to dealing with them for the vet tech program, plus some of the students in the program have told me while the class schedule might say one thing it is really 8am-9pm m-f and right now I NEED to work so a school schedule like that is a no-go. Davenport and Schoolcraft have been sujested, but I think they might be to far for me to get to. (My car right now is not mine so there's a lingering fear I'll suddenly not have transportation)

That school, and Schoolcraft, have been suggested to me but there's a small snag....I need a school super close to my house. I live less then a mile from DBI, and while it sounds like a stupid reason to pick a school I have good reasons. I take care of my 76 year old mom, and the car I use is hers. She has no problem with me using the car for school or work, but I don't like the idea of being to far away for to long. While it's only happened once, I want to be able to be there in a snap if needed. ...then again, I'm still not sure if this is what I want. One day I;m gung-ho, lets do this! and the next I;m second guessing myself. I know I have the smarts, and I know I can DO the work (My last semester of VetTech was "nursing skills" - if I can put a catheter in a squirming cat's leg, an arm is easy peasy!) I'm just not 100% on it yet...but that's probably because I haven't talked to people at DBI yet, and partially because I have two unfinished programs behind me (Medical Billing and Vet Tech) and I really don't want a third.

(Posted this in the general pre-nursing thread, figured I;d post it here too.) Hello, I'm debating on going into a nursing program, and due to personal situations I don't want to play around and wait on waiting lists and appyling to programs only to compete with dozens of other students. I'm looking into a local LPN program, figuring I can always bridge later to RN. I just...I'm my own worst enemy sometimes so I'm debating with myself. Background: I was a CNA close to ten years ago. My boyfriend got a false-positive for hep C and I made a comment to his mom that I would become a nurse (#1). I loved helping the people but HATED my co-workers on 2-11, at least the ones who were my age but seemed to have constant "baby daddy drama", or spent all Friday talking about going clubbing and drinking that weekend, then all Monday talking about the clubbing and drinking they did over the weekend. I left and went into retail. I quickly started hating people because retail workers see the worst of the worst. I hated my job most of all and ended up going to counseling. There I was diagnosed with dysthimia and mild social anxiety, and given a job aptitude test to see what job I would be good at. That came back - Nursing (#2). I didn't want to deal with people at the time and thought going to school to be a vet tech would be a good idea...then the economy crashed. I spent a year couch surfing because I couldn't find work. I started classes at a "career college" for medical billing, and several of my teachers told me I was wasting my time and I should go into nursing (#3 - I apparently don't listen!)...but I ended up dropping because I was couch surfing and needed to move. Finally got some stability and went back to school, this time for veterinary technology. Busted out all my pre-reqs, got in the program and..."Your program has been canceled" a few hours before classes began. >. One year in and I ended up dropping the program. There were issues between the schools involved and some of the instructors and I thought it would be better if I transferred to another school. Enrolled in one, and on the first day of classes I couldn't shake something felt off and I dropped...good thing I did, they never processed my financial aide. I told this to a girl at work (Still retail, still hate it), and a customer overheard me. She said it was a good thing I dropped because her niece graduated the same program a year earlier and was currently working at WalMart because there were no LVT jobs in the area, and she felt she didn't get enough schooling for all that is required (LVTs are animal nurses, radiologists, anesthesiologists, pharmacists, dentists and only two years of school...2 semesters for regular animals, 1 for small/lab animals, and 1 for large/farm animals). "If you could do that, why don't you switch to human nursing?" (#4...bout time I listen!) So now I've spent a month looking into local programs. I need my A&P classes no matter what program I take, but, like I said, I want to get in, and get to work. I can always bridge to RN at a later date. Right now I'm looking at the LPN program at DBI here in southeast Michigan. I haven't found much about the school, much less the program, but what I have found is all positive. After my previous experience at a "career college" I'm not a fan of the idea of going to a for-profit place, but the closest college to me is the one I just dropped out of (The LVT program is/was headed by the same people as EMT and RN), and gets something like 100 applicants a year for a 30 seat class.

I can't say anything about hiring, but both Beaumont and Henry Ford are big networks around here. The children's hospital in troy is part of the DMC, so not only is it brand spanking new (It only opened this year, can't miss it, building looks like legos) it's part of another big network in the area. I've heard rumors (so don't quote me) that there are staff (not just nurses) who get all the hours they want by working multiple locations in these networks.

I took the HESI without studying for it when I applied for the WCCCD vet tech program. If those are your grades you'll do good! I'm going back next semester to take A&P 1, followed by A&P 2, then enrolling in the DBI LPN program.

Hello, I'm debating on going into a nursing program, and due to personal situations I don't want to play around and wait on waiting lists and appyling to programs only to compete with dozens of other students. I'm looking into a local LPN program, figuring I can always bridge later to RN. I just...I'm my own worst enemy sometimes so I'm debating with myself. Background: I was a CNA close to ten years ago. My boyfriend got a false-positive for hep C and I made a comment to his mom that I would become a nurse (#1). I loved helping the people but HATED my co-workers on 2-11, at least the ones who were my age but seemed to have constant "baby daddy drama", or spent all Friday talking about going clubbing and drinking that weekend, then all Monday talking about the clubbing and drinking they did over the weekend. I left and went into retail. I quickly started hating people because retail workers see the worst of the worst. I hated my job most of all and ended up going to counseling. There I was diagnosed with dysthimia and mild social anxiety, and given a job aptitude test to see what job I would be good at. That came back - Nursing (#2). I didn't want to deal with people at the time and thought going to school to be a vet tech would be a good idea...then the economy crashed. I spent a year couch surfing because I couldn't find work. I started classes at a "career college" for medical billing, and several of my teachers told me I was wasting my time and I should go into nursing (#3 - I apparently don't listen!)...but I ended up dropping because I was couch surfing and needed to move. Finally got some stability and went back to school, this time for veterinary technology. Busted out all my pre-reqs, got in the program and..."Your program has been canceled" a few hours before classes began. >. One year in and I ended up dropping the program. There were issues between the schools involved and some of the instructors and I thought it would be better if I transferred to another school. Enrolled in one, and on the first day of classes I couldn't shake something felt off and I dropped...good thing I did, they never processed my financial aide. I told this to a girl at work (Still retail, still hate it), and a customer overheard me. She said it was a good thing I dropped because her niece graduated the same program a year earlier and was currently working at WalMart because there were no LVT jobs in the area, and she felt she didn't get enough schooling for all that is required (LVTs are animal nurses, radiologists, anesthesiologists, pharmacists, dentists and only two years of school...2 semesters for regular animals, 1 for small/lab animals, and 1 for large/farm animals). "If you could do that, why don't you switch to human nursing?" (#4...bout time I listen!) So now I've spent a month looking into local programs. I need my A&P classes no matter what program I take, but, like I said, I want to get in, and get to work. I can always bridge to RN at a later date. Right now I'm looking at the LPN program at DBI here in southeast Michigan. I haven't found much about the school, much less the program, but what I have found is all positive. After my previous experience at a "career college" I'm not a fan of the idea of going to a for-profit place, but the closest college to me is the one I just dropped out of (The LVT program is/was headed by the same people as EMT and RN), and gets something like 100 applicants a year for a 30 seat class.