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Suit-yourself-up when you understand that I do mean Effects not only Affects you may find you are hurting yourself and not me. Some are now finding themselves in a lawsuit over negative comments that turned into actual Slander effecting countless jobs. There would be no reason for the expense of a lawsuit if it did not Effect actual jobs, in turn actual lives, and concrete Effects. That Effect comes back upon the "user" of a site despite the best efforts of a site to moderate and users to self moderation. It is in your best interest to try and self moderate. l do see your choice I'm challenging it. That is a direct example and there are Affect examples as well. An individual can harm themselves without their own knowledge. In those indirect ways their Affect may in fact be damaging other relationships outside of the specific forum in which they breed their own negativity. The phrase "this is going to hurt me more than you" might be very adept. I have been on these forums for years and the comments often are not informative or even seem to be said in a way to seek understanding. That is the human mentality amongst many indirect forms of communication this forum just happens to share that in common. To err is human and it would be wise to learn and mature from that for not only others sake but also our own. On that note I hope we can find understanding if not don't expect me to respond to attacks. I hope you also see this is not an attack especially given that I did just say that text is the best suited for conveying intent.

Nope I meant Effect as in cause and Effect. From your own link Quote: "Adding to the confusion, effect can also be used as a verb to mean to produce or to cause to come into being. Here's an example that uses it correctly, A government unable to effect any change is a government that will produce no surprises."

When it comes to internet forums can just textual words convey enough. I say not "enough". -The lack of human interaction for one. -The lack of tone of voice. -Eye contact. -Mutual respect for each other as human. -Not having a two way conversation were I can intervene with words to clarify what your saying and you can fine tune how you are saying it. -No touch of a shoulder or hug when appropriate. -No quite silences in solitude -Where is the singing the music. -The body language to know what were saying and when its gone to far. I believe this alone can bread a negative culture of communication. -We want to be heard. -We don't feel understood. -Disconnectedness leads to a lack of filter. -Anonymity can lead to hiding behind facades or acting not like ourselves. -Maturity is lost, elder Wisdom not seen in our eyes. -At its worst passive or aggressive personal attacks where anger breeds. At best we only have a few textual "properties" defined in a limited set by programmers. -We are programing each other the same way. -The programed responses follow. -We act more like there are tiny robots in our heads and actions. -Human communication defies language. You only need to be in a country without being able to speak the language or care for a child or an ALS adult who's lost their speech capability to know you can communicate so much other then text or even words. -Social media has taught us that it is social. When in fact it is not social its disconnected at best. We are not living side by side through a screen. -We loose our ability to get beyond the surface knowledge to Reach the top of Bloom's Taxonomy Knowledge--->Comprehension--->Application--->Analysis--->Synthesis-->Evaluation -Stuck in a sort of logical loop like a stage of grief Sadness, Anger, Shock, Denial, Bargaining, Testing, Never quite reaching that Acceptance. The Acceptance we need to give to each other in order to learn that kind of mature respect. I know this next bit is going to be hard I'm framing the band aid pull off. We need to guard our words and hearts in forums as sensitive as this. Our words dramatically effect real lives. It drives the culture we set forth to new nurses. It effects our ability to function. Public opinions formed out of false trust can tear down careers, a person lifetime projects/endeavors, It can drive people from were they might otherwise feel needed, It can effect our own ability to be contributing members of society. I hope it will be with that respect that responses are written to this and every other forum. Lives can be at stake and this site is just now becoming acutely aware of this. Its time to use this to learn and grow teach those new and young ones the respect we all deserve by communicating that respect to them first and often even in spite of our assumptions or hurts or static beliefs. That is the only path to growth in a world of communications such as the type of the world today. Read back what you've written twice maybe three times before you say it. That is the primary strength of good self moderation.

Thanks Joe V that was fast! Is there a way for a site admin to setup some sort of auditing that allows you to look back for stuff like that. I would not have captured all of that detail in my head or did you have to trial and error debug it until it happened? I have been very confused and a little unfocused the last few days. I've had a lot on my plate. I had not wanted to loose my place on this thread so I opened a new window to log in and then could not due to not knowing my old accounts credentials. Then I ended up registering back in the old window "I think" because I was just confused. The details are fuzzy I know I ended up at some point just copying and pasting the URL to a text file.

FutureDNP2021 I would like to talk with you more I haven't visited this in a long time but that is not evident as I just re-registered under this email address from my website not my personal email account. I could not get my old user name to log in -or- send a reset email. One of your recent posts caught my eye. I went to your profile to see if this system had a way for me to private message you but it does not. I did however stumble across your threads list and I think we have a lot in common as far as concerns though I have lived them and you are just now in school. I had a physical injury that contributed to my lose of work and weight gain and struggle with finances after the lose of work and heavy burden of student loans. I live in Seattle which does not yet have a 15$ an hour minimum wage but the suburb of it SeaTac does and it is not the end of the world. I can relate a lot about various struggles if you want though I don't want to scare you so much as help you avoid any mistakes I might have made. I've been through a lot and have a lot of problem solving skills to add to your toolkit so you can be a success. Silverdragon102 I also would like to know more about the staff. I am making a career change to web and mobile design and originally was an RN. I might want to get more involved or work on some of your site. For starters there are some User interface issues I noticed right away with a pop up that triggers informing people something of their profile. That popup is unreadable and cannot be navigated to see all of the text. I don't know what I could contribute but I can start by giving you a screen shot of what I just encountered when trying to comment on this thread. I really just want to get to know more about what you feel this site is really for and about. Forums and threads can be helpful or hurtful and I want to make this a more positive experience for users by adding to the suggestions of how it might be with things like a way to PM or a live chat for certain topics. Just idea's how people can begin to mentor the Younger nurses and the Older nurses can learn from the new ones. Here is that screen shot I promised.