olcroner

olcroner has 28 years experience and specializes in Simulation Training, L&D, Med Surg.

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1. Ice machine use in hospitals

   olcroner replied to olcroner's topic in General Nursing

   Thank you joleneliddell. That information is very helpful. I have been talking with several infection control nurses and they agree it is a problem to monitor ice machines and they also stated many hospitals are moving to the chemical packs. Thanks...

2. Ice machine use in hospitals

   olcroner replied to olcroner's topic in General Nursing

   OK. I appreciate everybody's input. I'm am still researching this but the silver lining is this student has seen the light. I corrected her, privately, about another incorrect statement she made and was adamantly arguing. She said she had incorre...

3. Ice machine use in hospitals

   olcroner replied to olcroner's topic in General Nursing

   I am not planning to present these post as EBP but I have gotten several new sources and ideas of approach.

4. Ice machine use in hospitals

   olcroner replied to olcroner's topic in General Nursing

   Excellent. I definitely will check it out, Thank you.

5. Ice machine use in hospitals

   olcroner replied to olcroner's topic in General Nursing

   Thank you for your input on the proper way of filling ice bags, I agree. That's fantastic EBP. Other than flogging this student, which has crossed my mind, but not viable solution, I am addressing her stubbornness with facts. She has some experienc...

6. Ice machine use in hospitals

   olcroner replied to olcroner's topic in General Nursing

   Sorry. Probably not a good idea to use sarcastic humor in text format, leaves too much for interpretation, didn't mean to seem snooty. I am checking the local hospital policy on this. I work at a Simulation Center where we teach basics of nursing. ...

7. Ice machine use in hospitals

   olcroner replied to olcroner's topic in General Nursing

   At first I felt you thought I was wasting everyone's time, now, you seem to be arguing my point. But the student refuses to see it that way. It's the potential of cross contamination. I find if I present the students with policy or EBP then they ten...

8. Ice machine use in hospitals

   olcroner replied to olcroner's topic in General Nursing

   I have looked. I am inquiring at the local hospital but it does seem to be spelled out word for word or step by step. I am continuing to look. That's why I introduced this topic. There's plenty on the upkeep and cleaning of ice machines but not pr...

9. Ice machine use in hospitals

   olcroner replied to olcroner's topic in General Nursing

   It's not the ice. The bag that has been used on a patient that touches the ice machine and now you're getting ice from there for your patient's water or ice chips. My evidence is watching staff refill bags from the ice machine. Is best policy that ...

10. Ice machine use in hospitals

    olcroner replied to olcroner's topic in General Nursing

    This is the type of discussion I was hoping to see. I understand it isn't going to be a written policy. I am looking for EBP. Many of the post agree it's a potential source of infection. I am trying to give my students something to think about ea...

11. Ice machine use in hospitals

    olcroner replied to olcroner's topic in General Nursing

    These were the points I made to the student and all the students listening. I appreciate you sharing your best practice. This is what I feel as well. Reading most of these post I find the same precautions taken too. I really doubt that there's a w...

12. Ice machine use in hospitals

    olcroner replied to olcroner's topic in General Nursing

    Funny. Not very helpful, but funny.

13. Ice machine use in hospitals

    olcroner replied to olcroner's topic in General Nursing

    Do you suggest flogging them into submission or trying to educated them to do the right thing?

14. Ice machine use in hospitals

    olcroner replied to olcroner's topic in General Nursing

    I am the instructor. So it's just because I say so.

15. Ice machine use in hospitals

    olcroner replied to olcroner's topic in General Nursing

    I don't agree. Soon patient's family members see you fill a new one and they filling used ones.