djamies

When I say "as helpful as they have ever been," I'm being sarcastic. What I'm saying is that they have not been helpful in the past, and I expect them to continue to exist in their state of unhelpfulness. Thanks for wanting to understand.

Thanks - that's really helpful.

Actually, I am a nurse - for 18 years. I hate care plans, too, and generally believe they are as helpful as they have ever been. However, we are being told that the "pt/family long/short term goal" is going to be automatically added on every patient, and my principal trainer told us that there is not a list of goals because TJC requires it to be the patient's/family's statement. The thing is I need to train the RN's the way we should do things, not the real world way, you know what I mean?

I am in the process of becoming a credentialed trainer for Epic, as our hospital is going live with Epic in a few months. I could use some guidance on patient/family long and short term goals. I realize that the goal needs to be what the patient states (per JCAHO guidelines), but I'm thinking patients and families could use some direction in setting appropriate/attainable goals. Is there anyone using Epic who can help with this? Also, in a typical shift, how much time do you spend reviewing and updating your patients' care plans?