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thanks daytonite for clarifying your answers and assisting our group. our class textbook is foundations of nursing 4e by murray and mckinney. one reason why we had problems in answering question #2 is the way the question is worded. it states the most dangerous effect not effects and then choose all that apply. the most dangerous effect on the fetus of a mother who smokes cigarettes while pregnant is: (choose all that apply) stillbirth behavioral problems fetal addiction to the substance inhaled intauterine growth retardation in the textbook on page 601 table 24-2 for tobacco and fetal or neonatal effects it lists: prematurity, fetal demise (stillbirth correct?) developmental delays (growth retardation - agree) increased incidence of sids, neurologic problems (behavorial problems correct?) so you can see why alot of us were confused as to how to answer this so, do you think intauterine growth retardation is still the only answer based on the additional info given? help help 2catlover

thanks so much daytonite for clarifying your answers to my questions. i and my group member sometimes have trouble "reading into the question" which states "the most dangerous effect" not effects and then choose all that apply. it appears there is only one answer since effect is not plural. just like the way question #2 is written our main textbook is also foundations of maternal-newborn nursing, 4th edition, by sharon smith murray and emily slone mckinney and on page 601 table 24-2 for tobacco and fetal or neonatal effects it states: prematurity, lbw, fetal demise (stillbirth right? ) developmental delays, increased incidence of sids, neurologic problems ( behavorial problems right? ) the most dangerous effect on the fetus of a mother who smokes cigarettes while pregnant is: (choose all that apply) stillbirth behavioral problems fetal addiction to the substance inhaled intauterine growth retardation

Thanks Daytonite What source did you use? Can you explain #3 as to how an abnormally high uterine resting tone would also be an answer. Is the condition the woman is presenting is this Uterine Rupture? 2CatLover

hi everyone, we were given 30 questions to answer each as a group consensus. these are 3 that we are really battling with and could use some expert input please! a 17-year-old primigravida is 28 weeks gestation and has gained 6 pounds since 4 weeks ago at her last prenatal visit. the most important nursing action is to: caution her to avoid salty foods and return in 2 weeks advise to cut down on fast foods that are high in fat recommend she stay home from school for a few days to reduce stress assess blood pressure, presence of edema, and urine for protein. the most dangerous effect on the fetus of a mother who smokes cigarettes while pregnant is: (choose all that apply) stillbirth behavioral problems fetal addiction to the substance inhaled intauterine growth retardation a woman who has had a previous cesarean birth is in active labor, when suddenly complains of pain between her scapulae. which of the following actions should the nurse take? (select all that apply) assess the patient's vital signs for tachycardia, and falling blood pressure. observe for abnormally high uterine resting tone assist the client into a supine position notify the physician immediately as a group we are split between: # 1 a or d for the answer we all agree this is possible preeclampsia. #2 a lot of us feel it's a b & d only others feel it's all a, b, c, & d #3 a for sure with d? is the symptom of "pain between her scapulae" a symptom of uterine rupture or is it possibly a symptom of something else? thanks in advance for any help anyone can provide 2catlover

thanks daytonite.......i don't mean to sound stupid but are the answers in red? reason i ask is # 1 is not select all that apply and only one answer is needed for #1 #2 is select all that apply 2catlover

Hi Everyone, Our group needs help on answering these questions and could really use some input to see if we are on right track since we all have to come to agreement on the answers. Thanks in advance. A 17-year-old primigravida is 28 weeks gestation and has gained 6 pounds since 4 weeks ago at her last prenatal visit. The most important nursing action is to: Caution her to avoid salty foods and return in 2 weeks Advise to cut down on fast foods that are high in fat Recommend she stay home from school for a few days to reduce stress Assess blood pressure, presence of edema, and urine for protein. The most dangerous effect on the fetus of a mother who smokes cigarettes while pregnant is: (Choose all that apply) Stillbirth Behavioral problems Fetal addiction to the substance inhaled Intauterine growth retardation Intrapartum High Risk A woman who has had a previous cesarean birth is in active labor, when suddenly complains of pain between her scapulae. Which of the following actions should the nurse take? (Select all that apply) Assess the patient's vital signs for tachycardia, and falling blood pressure. Observe for abnormally high uterine resting tone Assist the client into a supine position Notify the physician immediately As a group we are split between: # 1 A or D for the answer We all agree this is possible preeclampsia. #2 A lot of us feel it's A B & D only Others feel it's all A, B, C, & D #3 A for sure with D? Is the symptom of "pain between her scapulae" a symptom of Uterine Rupture or is it possibly a symptom of something else? Thanks in advance

thanks for the quick response. now is this the complete answer at 133ml/hr. am i supposed to consider a 2 part to this question since the order states q12 hrs. or am i reading too much into this question? 2catlover

hi everyone, i could use help with this iv calculation question please to see if i'm reading it correctly to calcuate it. the instructor was kind enough to give us extra practice problems for the upcoming math calc test on tues, but eliminated the answers - so this is why i'm asking for help please! the order is for (dilantin) 150mg ivbp q 12 hrs. available to the nurse is 100ml of ns with 150mg of dilantin with instructions to infuse over 45 mins. the iv tuding delivers 10 gtts/ml. the ivpb is placed on an infusion pump. the rate of the infusion will be how many ml/hr? since on an infusion pump, wouldn't you disregard the 10gtts/ml? infusion pumps are based on hours not minutes correct. so the way i see this is: 100ml/12hrs = 8.3ml = to set pump at 8 ml/hr or am i completly off base? 2catlover

Jugre, Glad to hear Pharm is going to be easy or easier in comparison to what you are now taking. Are you taking Fundamentals of Nursing now? If so, what is your schedule like? (Class and Study wise) Reason I ask is that I still hope to work part time (16 to 24 hrs per week) All the LPN courses will be taught at Southfield campus and the ADN program is at Highland Lakes. Even though different campus', they should still be pretty much the same. I think Write when you can 2CatLover

Jugre, Thanks for your input. I'll be taking Pharm on Jan 13 2009 at Southfield Campus for the LPN program 2CatLover

Hi All, I will be taking Pharm Class in Winter 2009 at OCC (Oakland Communtiy College) would love to hear from OCC students that took the class for any pointers or suggestions since this class is only 7 weeks long. ...if you had to make drug cards - what size and information was needed. I would love to get a jump on the course so I can understand it more easily etc. Thanks in advance 2CatLover

Thanks Dwern. I too am a firm believer the timing for me to get in was now and not earlier as I would have liked.

Hey dwern31 I'm in for Winter 2009. The third time applying to the OCC LPN program was the charm. Determination and perserverance does pay off. See ya in 2009 2CatLover

Annie, I took Chemistry, Biology and Algebra in high school and that seems like a 100 years ago (LOL). Sorry, I can't directly answer your question, but maybe someone who took Chem more recently will respond to your question. Also, you could post this question in a topic to generate a better response to your needs. 2CatLover :redbeathe

Hi Anne36 Good to hear from you again. Thanks for the well wishes. I hope I get in too! and yourself. Sorry to say, there are no waiting lists. The selection goes by GPA and is on a curve dependant on total number of applicants and their GPA along with if there is a tie (GPA wise) the one with the earliest completion date of their pre req's becomes the final deciding factor. I strongly suggest you make an appointment with an advisor for the LPN Nursing Program or ADN program with either a Southfield or Highland Lakes Campus only who is more aware of what is happening. As far as the number of applicants - the medical field is very competive along with the factor of limited class size and instructors wanting to teach nursing. Today's economy and general job outlook - seems like everyone is turning to the medical field for employment security. Years ago, it was the teaching industry and or computer technology, where majority of college students directed their efforts toward their employment future and economic security. As far as paying back loans, keep in mind their are scholarships available too. Also, if you become hired in a hospital or assisted living setting aka extended care facility aka ECF and work part time, one of the benefits is tutition reimbursemet and or paid tuition (loan forgiveness) program, whereby they will pay up to a set amount and the repayment is negated by pledging to work "X" amount of years for them as repayment for the loan. The human resources department of the facility you may be interesed in working for could answer the specifics regarding this for you. Hope this helps.

Hi everyone, Just trying to keep this topic active in the hopes other applicants are awaiting to hear this month (Sept) on their acceptance or denial letter for the LPN Class 2009. Not only to give each other moral support, but maybe hookup with each other (car pool etc) should we all get accepted. 2CatLover:redbeathe

Hi everyone, Just keeping this topic alive in the hopes there may be other OCC LPN applicants for the Class of 2009 waiting to hear this month if accepted or denied and care to join in. 2CatLover

Dwern31 Well hello fellow applicant! I’m so glad I decided to post my query and have a reply to it this soon. Also, it’s good to hear the sampling fact about those students applying for RN program outweigh applicants to the LPN program. I’m happy to hear your GPA is a 3.8, this should defintely get you in. According to the Nursing Seminar I attended a couple of months ago. There were 90 applicants for the 2008 program. They accepted only 30. The GPA was 4.0 to 3.5 The class of 2008 was the first time they went by GPA. Of the 30 applicants, approximately 16 of them had applied to both the RN and the LPN programs. Majority of them had 4.0’s and that of course raised the bar for everyone else including myself. I just loved the way the catalog states you need a 2.0 or better, when in reality it should state 3.0 or better. I don’t know about you, but this is deceptive and very misleading to me regarding the GPA for consideration. At least one new thing they decided on for Class of 2009 – If an applicant decides to apply for both the RN and LPN program, for whichever one they are accepted to the other application is automatically pulled. They cannot have it both ways as was done in past years. As for myself, my GPA is 3.689. I pray this will be enough to get me in. This is my third shot at trying to get in. For 2007, it was still by earliest completion date of pre req’s. Well, because I decided to take A&P II in summer. I lost out, not only because of this, but also, I come to find out, that my high school transcript had legs and was missing from my file. Discovered this fact in Aug of 2007, I thought I was going to have a coronary! Still blows my mind that it was there when the checklist was reviewed and completed for the Jan 2007 program. For Class of 2008, now for 1st time by GPA, I took Eng comp at MCCC it was 4 credits, and even though it was “transfer equivalent to OCC Eng 1510 they calculated my GPA using the grade with 4 credits and not 3 as I was explained it would be equivalent too. Thus GPA was not high enough. So I took the OCC Eng 1510 this summer 8-week course. So, here I am or I should say we are, with less than 2 weeks to go and hope the 3rd time is the charm. PS High School transcript is there! I made a personal visit recently. As to the CNA see my note to Anne36. Something else you may be unaware of, if accepted to LPN program and once you complete the programs MED SURG clinical rotation, you will become a Nurse Tech and you could forget about paying for the Red Cross class. Many hospitals and assisted living facilities welcome Nurse Tech’s and will hire you in the hopes that once you graduate, you would consider working for them. I didn’t mean to get so long winded, but so much has happened to me just to try to get in and I’m truly determined. Keep in touch, as we both sweat the bullets on countdown. 2CatLover:redbeathe

Anne36 I know it's easy for me to say this, but try to relax as much as possible. Anything new can be a frightful experience when you don't have a crystal ball in front of you to see the immediate future. You'll probably find these feelings are common with your classmates in any subject and in just living in today's world of constant changes. You will survive and look back at this time and laugh, "What was I really afraid of"? For CNA programs, the quickest and least expensive is through the Red Cross (Downtown Detroit main office). I suggest you contact them. It's only about $700 and lasts about 3-4 weeks. As for experience, I just love those jobs that say you must have experience first to be considered for hire. Well, how can you get the experience, if no one will hire you to begin with. What a catch 22 world we live in. I suggest as a starting point, working as a volunteer in a hospital setting and or assisted living to gain experience and knowledge in communicating and servicing the sick and or elderly. Also, by doing this a couple of hours or days a week the person or persons in charge would be part of your references needed. Hope this helps for now. Keep your chin up, and conquer Chemistry - Don't let it conquer you. A little stress is generally a good and powerful motivator. 2CatLover:redbeathe

Hi, Just wondered if anyone has applied to the Oakland Community College LPN program which starts Winter 2009. The acceptance/denial letters are supposed to be mailed by Sep 15th. Hope to hear from other applicants waiting to receive the results and give each other some moral support in the interim 2CatLover :redbeathe

Surprise, Surprise My schedule for ENG 1510 is the same days and times. If you are taking the 8 week course ----Bingo! LOL 2CatLover

Boy oh Boy - talk about a small world. My instructors name is Robinson taking it for 8 weeks. I have heard thru the grapevine He is Great! I too need to get an A. It would be wild if we have the same instructor. Carol

kk54321 I have registered to retake ENG 1510 for Summer 1 at Royal Oak Campus to boost GPA and give it one more try. As a added note to the Mar 20th seminar, some asked what the nursing dept felt the GPA would be for the Winter 2009 applicants. They said, "We can't really say, it could even be lower than the 3.5 for students applying for Winter 2008". I wouldn't totally count this statement since its again so ifffy, but figure from at least a 3.5 to 4.0 again. Maybe one good thing for sure - with a July 1 deadline and a Sept 15 deadline response from them for acceptance or denial won't be so dragged out and totally nerve racking. 2CatLover

Sirena922, Yes, I agree with you about allowing ADN applicants to apply for LPN. Since the competion is even more fearce for the ADN - example there were over 500 applicants for the Fall 2008 program per the Nursing Seminar. They selected from applicants having GPA's from 3.62 to 4.0. The nursing dept stated this at the Mar 20th seminar I attended at Southfield for LPN & ADN perspective students. At least one good thing starting this year is: Say an ADN applicant applies for the LPN and is accepted - Their ADN application is pulled. Thus, they can't have their cake and eat it too should they decide to decline their LPN slot. Also, since there is such a strong competition for ADN program and they decide to apply for the LPN (probably felt the same - it would be easier to get in), well you can now see how it could affect the GPA for all LPN applicants. I took the MPT last May. 2CatLover