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  1. Some time this weekend I will attempt to delete or close this post. I am entirely new to how forums work, but I thought I would at least try out this site for a chance at additional insights into issues I am facing on my path to being a nurse. Before I respond to a few responces to my post, I would like to clarify that I am now only requesting information regarding who a student nurse can look to for advocacy if they do not feel this option is available within thier educational institution There may not be any such advocacy for a nursing student and maybe advocacy of this kind does not exist for students in general. It is disturbing though to think that this component could be left out of foundational elements of education, expecially when it comes to many of the idiologies attached to nursing... For the question of why I would leave a post in a particular format that may require some interpretative skills and left itself open to critical and counterproductive responses. .. What each person that replied said or didn't say, would give an accurate portrayal of this sites general level of support and reflect how the issue I was posting about could be demonstrated using only the replies to this post. To paint the picture... a post is made about widespread bullying and emotionally sensitive content is provided relative to the subject; members of this site for various reasons decide to read a post about bullying; and some show concern, some make an actual effort to clarify, some are pushing themselves to the point where a post like this is to much to work theough if thwy are not sure if they would be able to help, some outright attack the post, some adapt a bullying mentality, and some try to point out that they must have superior intelligence because it did not fit within their comfort zone of simplicity. All information provided was based off issues I am currently facing with another kindhearted soul. For someone who said that there must be something wrong with me if I am always under attack, well they are right and there is. I am kind, stubborn, and perceptive. If a person is kind, this puts the person within social subgroup to be approached a specific way and any action they take to be given simular consideration. Once perceptional abilities are added, what others do or don't say or do in response to any act of kindness or humility, provides a detailed picture of the landscape the kind individual is living in at the moment. When stubbornness is added to the equation particularly to not tolerating any form of manipulation or aggression in response to this kindness, things become quite a bit more colorful. People are shown for who they are and if they are unable to recover their pride when they make the mistake of attacking attacking what they thought was a soft target, they may begin to take irrational and emotionally driven actions. I have dealt with this issue of mine from the age of seven on and have read self help books and have seen professionals to try to find an approach that does not ultimately lead to facing hostility from multiple directions. I have never made any progress on this issue other than to change my heart to one that is not kind and all of my problems will be solved and turned into blessings... The hope with nursing was that my personality would be more welcome in this element. Now someone I care about that is equally kind, but is less adapted to this level of hostility is also being affected. Part of me wants to believe that I am at fault for letting a romance bloom under such circumstances, but then again to let love go because you cannot remove yourself from duress, is foolish and cowardly. We will both fight what faces us together and eventually overcome them together. Any constructive non-opinionated objective information would be appreciated. I will not produce any future replies to this post, but humbly look foward to reading any meaningful replies others may post.
  2. Thank you ixchel , you were dead on in your translation.
  3. Sorry, this was my first post and it was hurried. I was curious to see the type of replies I would recieve with the post left in its current state. All replies that have been posted are appreciated regardless of content. The post is somewhat of a biography for 2 semesters of nursing school. Me and what was just a platonic female friend of mine were bullied in different ways from the start of the first semester. Through our suffering we grew together and once it was evident to our classmates that we were together, the bullying approach changed. The post was specific to me until the very end in which I pointed out that an educator sceduled an academic counciling session with her, only to suprise her with you need leave him and here is all the gossip I heard on why you have to. I am use to people in general attacking me, but if when someone I care about starts to get attacked too beyond what she is use to and capable of handling, I know need to reach out further for help. I am extremely busy right now and am finding it hard to find the time to track down what options I may have available in our defence. When a for pay nursing program with all of its protective legal measures are in place decideds to participate willingly in the group bullying process, who does the student or students being bullied go to? Go to a lawyer and fight an uphill legal battle while near broke and unprotected by whistleblower rights? Is there someone to go to for our state board of nursing(Oregon ) or maybe the ANA? Should we both just take our losses and try a different school with the hope that we will not be subject to this level of harassment again? We are finishing out this term and then do not know what we will do. We are feeling alone and isolated in a raging sea. I apologize if this the wrong place to voice our concern. If needed, please redirect and I will happily voice my concerns in an more appropriate forum. I only need to know where.
  4. I am on a lunch break during clinical, so will provide the basics and followup when possible. Individual bullying ineffective due to lack of intelligence and posed threat. Same story for group bullying. False accusations and various torts follow with no effect. Next step is to extend socialization to educators and attempt to sway perception towards the individual to be bullied towards a demonized view. Educators are swayed and begin to communicate with administration and previous accusations and torts are given more consideration and a particular picture is painted. Bullying still remains ineffective as there is no ground for the expanded circle to firmly stand on and any approach to person to be bullied puts them at risk for multiple legal consequences on their part if not approached carefully. There is much more to the story to include liable from a educator to a individual I have a relationship outside school confines, to critical observation of my toileting times in the clinical setting of a skilled care facility.

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