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cherish86

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  1. [ Thanks a bunch. I just used the insulin as a small example. These RNs do not have critical care experience. They wouldn't be prepared to run a code or even have access to emergency medications if I am stcu at the bedside. Some of them still have problems reading Tele which is the job of the second nurse when census is 1 to 2. One RN takes patients the other takes the desk. But what I think you are saying is the ER nurses should be okay since they have critical experience? Someone at work stated that it is against the law when there are not two ICU RN in the unit with ICU patients. I was trying to find this law. Thanks for your direction! :) QUOTE=Nurse_;8213133]In California, ICU RNs are 2:1 or 1:1. If you the other person you are working with have critical care background/training, regardless of where they working right now then it should be okay. Like you said, it is a small ICU. If the biggest concern you have at the moment is that they do not have access to the pyxis to get insulin, that's not really something you should focus on. http://www.cdph.ca.gov/services/DPOPP/regs/Documents/R-37-01_Regulation_Text.pdf 70217.1 - Talks about staffing ratio for ICU http://www.nurseallianceca.org/files/2012/06/Title-22-Chapter-5.pdf 70491 - Intensive Care Unit definition
  2. Hello I was hoping someone can help me find a law or some insight into this topic. I work in the ICU. I am a new graduate nurse (5months). Three times I have came to work and been paired with a med surg, ER or L&D nurse as my back up. I have been told that this is illegal by other experienced RN and that I should refuse assignment. We are the only two nurses on the unit since this is a small ICU. I do not feel comfortable with this. Especially because the other RN do not have access to the pyxis for things like insulin etc. I have to call house supervisor and wait which can be very dangerous for my patient!. Thank goodness nothing has happened but the potential is there. The next time this happens I want to refuse assignment until they bring an ICU nurse. Is there a law that states I have this right? Does having ANY RN on the unit as long as ratios are intact allow for compliance or do they have to be ICU RN? Sometimes they put the house sup on the unit however not all the sups are ICU RN'S some are ER, MED SURG ETC. Is this complain't or even considered safe??! Thanks in advance and please point me in direction of some law so I will be prepared when I refuse this next!!

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