kakeru

Hello fellow IENs! Don't be discouraged by the low passing rate. I would say go for it! I passed the osce last august. It was tedious and quite hard but can be done! Few tips: Read the standards of care in CNO website as well as the examples Review on physical assessment & history taking plus focus assessment Watch you tube on how to deal with psyche pts manic/depressive/suicidals How to deal with angry pts or relatives Health teachings Therapeutic communication End of life care/palliative care Practice in front of a mirror & pretend that you are talking to someone so you can observe your own gestures and tone of voice Good communication skills is an asset so practice talking Cases are easy its just that its too many and tiring! Invest time practising & reviewing and give your best shot Remember that if you pass it saves you a lot of time & money Good luck!!! All the best!!!

I wasn't assuming anything. It's the tone of some of the comments that puts me off. I just can't take being pushed to the ground as if IENs have nothing to offer. And not complaining doesn't always resonate happiness it just sometimes mean that they have no choice. Oh sorry there is always a choice and they choose not to voice out what they really felt. Well, to be fair, I'm quite aware of CARNA's process and it's what I've expected Ontario would be doing.

Did you know that IENs who have longer & more extensive experience are being offered higher salaries compared to the newly grads of Canada? That means length of experience matters my dear. How is that any different with being assessed for entry-to-practice in Ontario?

IENs came to Canada under the federal skilled worker category. We are not refugees whom you might perceive as dependents of your government. It was Canada's government who identified that there was shortage of nurses here and so we came with their promise and high hopes of becoming a nurse in Canada and live what we thought would have been a better life. Don't put off nurses from other countries because I'm definite that we can offer much more than you ever expected. It's not our fault if you have to compete with us with job placement. Some of us are far better than any of you considering the many experiences some of us have had anywhere else in the world. I understand that you are proud of your Canadian education and experience but that doesn't give any of you the right to belittle nurses from other places. It's a tight competition but putting off other nurses just gives bad impression to Canadian nurses.

Tell you what... apparently your government said the opposite. And any education was never shouldered by Canada. It's being paid by the IENs like me. And I am working not as a nurse yet but paying taxes religiously. No IEN will ever thought of being dependent to your government. We come here to work

I understand where you are coming from and before I came here I have weighed all the risks involved with our move. It has been a great deal of sacrifice considering what I left behind. And I have every right as an immigrant and I am religiously paying my taxes. And if ever I need to study I will pay. I didn't come here to beg or depend. I came here because I want to work. You lost the argument because we are not talking about taxes the immigrant should be paying. You don't have the right to look down on the capabilities of IENs. You don't know what they have sacrificed and what they are capable of. I am aware of OSCE in other provinces of Canada and that's what I thought the process will be in Ontario. For instance in Manitoba, if the college identified gaps in your practice, the college will guide you how to bridge the gaps. There is a program available. A very clear tract. From what you are saying, it seems that the OSCE was designed to put off the IENs. Well I refuse to believe that.

Not really. I never wanted to work in US. It never was an option to me, honestly. I've chosen Canada over US from the start. Must have been a wrong decision though... Don't get me wrong, being an RPN is not in anyway demeaning. I just felt that IEN's experience should also be taken into consideration. Which was happening before, by the way. This wasn't the process I signed up for when I started and then they made the changes recently which unfairly affected the old applicants... Oh well, what more can I do? No blabbering can change their rules. That's just too bad

And do you think that's fair?the OSCE here in Ontario aims to assess IEN's gaps in regards to Canadian nursing system plus the many areas of nursing. Given this predicament, it can easily be inferred that the answers to the so called "gaps" are available in universities where the Canadian nurses graduated from. I don't know about your system in US but here in Ontario its a chaos. The process is misleading and we ended up being RPNs. And when I used BON I meant body of nursing or college here in Canada.

I understand that CNO is a licensing body. Most of the IENs are willing to comply with what is required. However, CNO has an obligation that the rules they make are congruent to the education offered here in Ontario. There's no sense of having been assessed for gaps and be required to study the whole course regardless of how much has been identified. Unlike with the other provinces here in Canada, OSCE for IENs is new in Ontario. In other provinces, the BON summarizes the deficiencies and will suggest specific courses geared to meet the gaps. It makes more sense.

I'm an internationally educated nurse and have had extensive experience in nursing from my homeland and internationally. I'm on the process of assessment in CNO for RN registration. I'm also a new immigrant in Canada looking for a better future for my family and aiming for career advancement. However, ironically, CNO might have mislead me into a chaotic process of registration. I was assessed to undergo OSCE through CEPHEA to determine if I have gaps in nursing practice. I am resigned that I will definitely have identified gaps especially in regards to Canada's nursing practice which I'm not quite familiar with. However, what ****** me off is that CNO seems to have no idea on how to help the IENs fill in the gaps. Imagine a friend of mine who recently been assessed with 3 gaps among the many criteria and after which was lost what to to next. She was given a list of colleges and universities to inquire from and guess what?? The were no particular pathway or courses available to specifically fill in the gaps. There is however, a bridging program at York university which takes 20 months to finish and accepts only 50 candidates per school year. Talk about the backlog of IENs who wanted to get in! it's hundreds or probably thousands! Other colleges offer courses too by the way, then you need to push through university. So in total that will take you three years to finish. I understand that Canadian nursing system is different and I am most willing to conform with what is needed. However, it's really insulting to IEN's to pay for an OSCE assessment then be left without a clear tract of what's going to happen if we fail. No offense but I've worked for 15 years internationally and I don't think that I have to study for 20 months more so 3 long years to be an RN in Canada. Nursing is nursing regardless of where we came from. It's basically caring with few tweaks of technical differences from place to place. And personally, I think, it should not take 20 months or more to learn and conform with the differences. So frustrating!!!

Hello everyone! Has anyone who failed OSCE been notified how to successfully meet the gaps? From what I've heard, the were no particular subjects being offered by the universities to specifically meet the gaps identified in the OSCE assessment. The CNO does not recommend subjects too but rather give out lists of universities to inquire from. There were no clear answers though. In York univ, a 20-month course is available for IENs. It's quite frustrating to take up the whole course should there be minimal gaps only. I thought that if I'll fail the OSCE, CNO has a program on how will I bridge the gaps. For those who have such experience, kindly share your thoughts. I just thought it's unfair to be assessed then wander afterwards thinking what's next?!