Thanks Timefor, the clinicals were tough, and looking back, I'm not sure how I did it all knowing I had some clinicals i had to be at at 6:30am. I think I depended on the help of friends. For some of the times, my youngest son's friend's mom ran a day care and so she would take him in the am of my clinicals and get him to school. I had another friend that would take him after school on Mondays (darn short days). It seemed like it would never end. My two other children are older so after school they were able to come home for my youngest, but the mornings were hard. It seemed like it would never end. But you do get through. NOVA still has 5 openings left? Is that their daytime program or evening weekend program?? When I applied in 2002 for an opening in 2003 it filled up by January and had quite a large waiting list. Maybe that evening program is opening some spaces for daytime people. Good luck, Gayle Actually,