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I am also a first time applicant and they required me submit all my clinical rotations and cases done

What is wrong with us? What is also wrong with you advising people to take the local board when in fact we dont need the local board in order to be licensed here but it just happened that california had been already enforcing their rule about concurrency...i have known people who did not really take the local board and had been practicing RN already. Lucky you that Florida has not enforced the concurrency rule yet so watch out if you decide to apply for reciprocity here in California if you will not experience what we are experiencing right now so be careful on what you tell people....

How lucky are they...... Somebody told me that their dean submitted a letter but still they did not get eligibility...what school did they graduate from.... U can pm me the answer if you want... Tnx!

@sallyp911.. I think its all about the timing of application since usually i read that the foreign graduates who got denied submitted their application in April 2011. Maybe it was just in April that CaBon really enforced the rule... So ask your friend when the others submitted their application to verify our hypothesis to be added to our research... Hahaha!

Opps i am not here to argue with any body.. I have read some of your post from other threads already so if that is your opinion about foreign graduates then so be it... I am here to check on what has been going on... hoping to find answers to my question...

@sally911I' m glad you got what i meant coz your post really hit me.like you said PH students went beyond what California students had done. All posters here are hoping, that CaBon realize that these cases even though not done in concurrent with theory does not mean that clinicals were not done concurrently. Because like i said these cases need not be completed on that specific time frame of theory... Cases can be completed until before graduation.We spoke with analyst who pointed out that cases were not done concurrently with theory coz most of the cases were done during fourth year... Senior years were given priorities of course or else they cannot graduate...i dont know... Still thinking on how to prove that clinicals were also done concurrently...there's gotta be a way.. Maybe have the school specify what had been done during that clinical coz ob and med surg is not only about these cases... Observation like what you guys have done or taking care of pt in labor,post partum women,pre op and post patients are also part of ob and med surg...idont know... What about you ,did your school have to specify what are being dont during clinicals and not simply your logbook showing you have your clinicals done concurrently with your theories.. Coz if you guys can just observe why they not consider foreign students too? Just thinking aloud ... I guess it will help if our PH board will not require these cases but "hands on" is also a good experience.What about your rn friend, did she submit her application yet... If she is still in PH she should coordinate with her school about this issue and maybe like i said have them help her prove that there was a concurrency even though cases were done later.Goodluck to your friend!

@ sally 911I think you did not really read my post clearly like i meant it to be... Did you see that i said that California students does not need to complete these cases and i did not say classes coz i know your theory and clinicals were done concurrently coz i have spoken to california students already who are now rn and some of them were friends... And when i said cases i meant cord care, actual deliveries, assisted deliveries, minor and major scrub and circulating cases. Like you did a lot of PH students also observe cases in concurrent with theories but Ca Bon is looking when the cases were completed . PH school allows students to complete all the cases until their 4th year like i have mentioned and need not all be completed in concurrent with their theory.. I did not made up my statement coz a friend rn who studied here in california said she was not able to deliver baby,just observe and not even scrub surgical cases just like you said US law will not allow it coz of lawsuit which you also mentioned. In short ,be reminded that i said cases and not classes....and i am not blaming anybody...just stating my opinion about this.

I think i am able to send pm now but i dont know if you received my pm coz pop up says error and you cannot received messages anymore coz ur stored space is already full and u need to erase messages

i can call you if you want you can pm me your contact... Spoke to dean already...

We talked to my analyst in person.... Told them about the cases done..

That is a very large number of applicants... Lucky who get to enroll on it..tnx!

Sept 2011... Will pm you my exact location once i am able too..when did u submit yours?

I received your pm... But still unable to send you pm yet, i tried twice...waiting till i can send...need to post more... Pm me where are u in the bay area....

Send me pm... Ineligible due to issue of concurrency... Have to take ob and med surg...i cannot send pm yet... Would really like to talk to you esp we are both from bay area.

At retetestis ... Unable to send pm yet... Send me pm

In my opininon having these cases done semesters away after the theory does not mean that we were not concurrently doing our clinical because students were also sent to the hospital to do clinicals related to the theory but unable to get cases since it is someone else's turn to take it.because like in ob there will be not enough patients to give birth during your entire ob exposure which maybe true when you will be in med surg. What i understand is that these cases are requirements for graduation that can be finished all throughout from 2nd year to 4th year and not necessarily be all done concurrently with the theory.What is upsetting for me too is that California students are not required to do these cases and yet our letters from CaBon says we do not meet the minimum requirements for California. For some California students they observe cases and not really required to do it though some of them said they did deliver babies.Still, in the end CaBon will have the final decision on our fate....so sad about it!

@ nursealicious... are you from uc too? i am from uc batch 2011

Hi Retetestis... Also from UC batch 2011 too...i am here at the bay area... Pm me!

@ retetestis. ...are u from university of cordilleras coz i saw from one of your post that you are asking bout it... I am from university of cordilleras.. Same problem ..ob and med surg deficiency accdg to Ca Bon.. Please pm me as i am not able to send pm yet coz i just joined

. @ zhapper .... I tried to send you e mail about sfsu... Please give me more info... I am from the bay area too... An hour away from san francisco...you can pm me too...right now i cannot send pm coz i just joined... Like you ob and med surg is the problem....i 'll appreciate any info you can give me...

Yap i saw that too! I dont know how lucky can we be to compete with that very large number of students!

I have read from some of the blogs here that sfsu offers ob and med surg defeciency classes ....anyone who has info about this ,please let me know coz i am also from the bay area and interested to enroll in it...please!

To nursewholikesnursingCan you give me your e mail add coz i want more info about the classes at sfsu....i also received a letter about med surg deficiency... Lives at the bay area so i would like to inquire about it too....please!