HCR Manorcare/Heartland has some practitioners that work for them in their centers and I have been told their visits should be around 11. I know someone who has been there for 8 years and likes it. There are some docs that work in the centers that hire their own pracitioners to work exlusively for them in the HCR/Manorcare centers. Then it is up to that physician to assign the number of patients you have to see.