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Every time I've done a full bed bath, I have worn gloves. My instructor was present on multiple occasions, and never raised any issues.

For care plans, I don't have any specific book to recommend, but I'd suggest making acquaintances with students further along in semesters. Ask them to see some of their early care plans. That was really critical for me, seeing one actually done, not just being told what to put where. For the apical pulse, you want to find the angle of louis on the sternum. It's a distinctly noticeable notch on the sternum. You can find it by running your fingers (generally index & forefinger) along the sternum. Some people start from the top, and work down (it's very near the top), I find it easier to start more towards the bottom of the sternum and run my fingers upwards, towards the persons neck. Pay attention to your fingers, and you'll notice the subtle upward prominence. From that spot, if you move your fingers left (the person's left, not your's), you will be on the second rib. If the person is a little meaty, don't be afraid to push, you'll know you're on a rib because it'll be solid. Right below second rib is the second intercostal space, so on and so forth. You'll feel the intercostal spaces distinctly (if you push hard enough) because you'll feel a rib on either side of your finger(s). Once you can feel the intercostal spaces, just count down the ribs, until you hit the fourth or fifth intercostal space, then move your fingers along the intercostal space to the mid clavicular line. Typically, on men, the apical sits somewhere in-line with, but below the nipple; it's in the same general spot for women, but the nipple isn't as reliable of a landmark b/c of differences in breast size, etc. Don't get discouraged, especially if it's only your first week. Counting ribs and spaces on an overweight, or muscular person is going to be difficult no matter what.

Is anyone else having trouble accepting admission to the university using the MyCSULB website? I don't have any link that says "accept/decline" anywhere. The page is literally blank, except for some how to guides that are useless.

http://www.csulb.edu/depts/enrollment/admissions/applicant.html Go to the above link, and click on the "Check My Application Status" button. Enter your ID for CSULB, or your social, and follow all the little buttons. If you're accepted it will tell you at the end, on the same page.

I'm a guy lol, so in terms of nursing roommates, my choices are more limited. Hopefully there's other guys that will be looking for possibly rooming. Or if I can find a nice studio for a reasonable price.

I also thought about trying to find a roommate on this forum and by talking to people on orientation day. I definitely would prefer a roommate in the program, so we can at least mutually understand the need for no parties or crazy loud music, etc.

This is kind of off the topic of actually getting accepted into the program...but forgive me. I know there are some pretty knowledgeable people about the ins and outs of the program, so I figured it was a good place to ask. Does anyone have any figures as to how many new CSULB nursing graduates actually land jobs relatively quickly after school? Carousing the forums, it seems like pretty bleak pickings no matter where you are. Any info is appreciated. Congratulations to those who have been accepted.

Hi there, I'll admit I am not a nurse, nor even a nursing student yet. I've been accepted in to two separate programs, an ADN and a BSN program. I've been working extremely hard for the last two years getting pretty much perfect grades through all the pre-reqs and testing, and finally got accepted. Now I come here to get an idea of things and see all these people who are graduates with no jobs for months to years after graduation. Passionate about the position or not, is it even worth going to nursing school? I don't overly want to go to school, graduate with debt (though hopefully not much), and then not find a job in a career I spent 2-3(ADN vs BSN program length) busting my butt to graduate from. I understand the economy is bad, and won't improve for many years to come, but I don't overly want to commit myself to 3 years of nursing school and end up not ever even being a nurse. Any input appreciated. Thanks.

The university itself may accept out of state students, but the nursing program does not take out of state applicants.

Pretty sure the email only went out to those who were accepted. Because it says congratulations, etc. It was only sent to 74 (I may have miscounted) email addresses.

That "required" to do the trimester program is my fear. I'll be kind of upset if I give up my spot in Saddleback's program so I can go to CSULB, and then get lottery forced into 2 years of no down time. Props to you for wanting to 2 year program, but I don't think I could stay sane in school if I literally only got 2 weeks off the entire year. Do you know if we find out which program (2 or 3 year) we'll be in, on orientation day?

Does anyone know if the trimester program is 100% optional? As in, can I be forced to go into the trimester program, instead of my preferred choice of the three year program.

Sciences: 4.0 GE: 3.9 TEAS: 89.3 TEAS Math: 90.0 9.53 points.

So, if we got in to the nursing program, we just have to wait for the university to confirm admission? Is it even possible to get into the program, but not the university?

Are you guys calling the nursing dept number, or her specific number?

This is what my application status is, when I use the online service to check it. "Your application is complete and has been referred to the academic department for consideration. Be sure to check the website of your academic department to find out about any departmental deadlines or additional documents required. You will be notified once a decision is made." Pretty much goes with what BeachSideNic said. Won't hear anything more until the nursing department stops torturing us.

Checked the mail today, no letters from CSULB. I guess that's a good sign. Hopefully we do actually found out next Monday. Did they say they'd let us know by e-mail, as well as posting and letters? I don't remember all the ways they said they'd inform us.

Just wondering, have any of you other transfer students heard from the actual university, in terms of being accepted or not? My transcripts were requested, and due by Oct 14th at the latest...but I have yet to hear anything in terms of acceptance or rejection.

Hello, Like many of you, I am waiting/deciding on nursing schools. I have been accepted into Saddleback's Spring 2012 RN program. I am currently waiting to hear from CSULB, but I feel like my chances of getting in are pretty high, unless a budget crisis causes severe cuts. At this point, even though it may be jumping the gun a bit, I'm trying to decide between which school to go to. I know it's ahead of myself, but I want to think of all the pros and cons before hand, so that if I do get into CSULB, I already have my decision. Obviously, CSULB is a BSN program and Saddleback is an ADN program, so there is a length difference. I am planning on getting a BSN no matter what, whether I go to Saddleback, then go to a RN-BSN program, or straight through CSULB. As of right now, cost is not a deciding factor, I'm looking more at the overall experiences people have had at either of these programs. If you attend either of these programs, I would greatly appreciate it if you could answer some, or all, of the following questions. My biggest interests are 1, 2, and 5. 1. How have you found the instructors to be? Do they seem to genuinely care about your success, are they friendly, hard, etc. 2. How were your class sizes? Did you feel like you had an easy time talking to an instructor, if you needed? 3. How hard were your classes? Did you study non-stop, did you find it difficult to study for so many classes? 4. Did you bond with your classmates? If not, any particular reason? 5. Would you recommend your program? What parts really stood/stand out in your experience to make you recommend, or not recommend, your program. 6. (CSULB only) Did you take Pharm and Patho your first semester? How did you survive?! Also, is the 1 unit nutrition class, and the 2 unit communication class very study intensive? My gut tells me to go to CSULB, because I can get things done at one school, and not have to worry about applying to an RN-BSN program. My concerns about CSULB are that it's a much larger school, so I don't want to have teachers that aren't really connected to their students, and don't seem to care about their success. I like to connect with my classmates and teachers. Frankly, I'm also terrified of the difficulty at CSULB. Taking a six class load is incredibly intimidating. I'm just trying to gather all the information I can, so I can make the most educated choice possible. If you actually read this entire message, then thank you for taking the time. If you plan on responding, then double thank you!

I was hoping any current, or former, CSULB Nursing School could give me any information on the programs policy for visible tattoos. I've searched around these forums, but none were directly related to this program. Does the program allow you to wear long sleeves, if you have visible tattoos on your arms? Or can you use band-aids, etc? I only have one visible one, on the inside of my right wrist. It's not offensive, or vulgar. I read that some hospitals won't allow long sleeves because of infection control, so I was hoping someone with direct experience through CSULB and those hospitals could give me some input. Thank you, in advance!

She means that all the transfer applicants that were qualified enough to be interviewed, were contacted. Not that every single transfer applicant was contacted for an interview. If anything, transfers are going to have a harder time getting in because of the possible budget cuts.

Last time they limited the transfers, it didn't occur until after interviews had been completed. It greatly depends on whatever happens (and whenever) with the stupid California budget. As of right now, they're definitely taking transfers. But it could change. Here's to hoping not.

I also applied to CSULB. Patiently waiting to hear from them. I'm a transfer so my hopes may get cut short if they limit the amount of transfers, or don't accept any at all. Good luck to everyone!

I just got accepted into the Saddleback RN program. Super excited, and relieved...but thanks to my OCD stressful brain I'm already worrying about the first semester. I have not taken Pharmacology, as I do not live in Southern California, and my college did not offer it. How horrible is it going to be taking N170, n171, N165 and Pharm all at the same time?? Does pharmacology require a lot of study time? How much outside class time did you find the N170 and N171 to require? I'm not worried about N165, but I've heard bad things about pharmacology, and read that most people recommend taking it before starting the program. I wish I had had the option, but I didn't. How does pharm compare to physiology or micro? Thanks in advance.

I just got mine. :) Congratulations!